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Roughly 1% of the Sun's output is from the CNO cycle. The original C12 came from the triple alpha process. Three helium atoms collide to form C12 more-or-less
by nwallin 6y ago
Roughly 1% of the Sun's output is from the CNO cycle.
The original C12 came from the triple alpha process. Three helium atoms collide to form C12 more-or-less directly. Technically, two helium atoms combine to form Be8, which combines with a third helium atom to form C12, but the half-life of Be8 is 8e-17 seconds.
There was no C12 anywhere in the universe until the first stars began dying. Only after the first generation of stars lived their entire lives, and off-gassed C12 (and other heavy elements) and the next generation of stars formed from the remnants did any stars exist with C12 in them, or planetary disks form around them that contained any elements heavier than lithium.
This had fairly significant effects. First of all, the first generation of stars (called Population III stars) could not burn hydrogen via the CNO cycle, which can happen much more rapidly than the proton proton chain. Second, they were much more transparent. Combined, this means that they were much, much less constrained in terms of mass than contemporary stars. They could have been enormous. They could have been large enough that it was energetic enough in their cores that the highest energy gamma rays might preferentially form positron-electron pairs- that was a lower energy state than just being plain old light. This would reduce the temperature in the core, which would cause it to contract. As it contracted, it would heat up again- which would cause more electron position pair production.
Normally, fusion in the core of a star is self regulating. As it heats up, it expands, which reduces the rate of fusion. This causes it to cool down, which causes it to shrink. This increases the rate of production. This process stable and self regulating.
However, pair-production throws a wrench in all this. Higher temperatures are short circuited into pair-production, which causes it to shrink, which increases the rate of fusion, which increased the rate of pair production, which causes it to shrink more. It's a feedback loop that creates a very small, very very very hot core. And the core collapses. But this doesn't collapse into a black hole or anything, it shrinks until the point where the density of positrons is so great that they annihilate as fast as they are being created. At this point, the feedback loop breaks, and the entire star explodes in an impossibly powerful supernova. There's no warning and no remnant; it's a normal (albeit very large and very bright) star one moment, a ridiculous supernova the next, and nothing but an expanding gas cloud containing a wide variety of heavy elements the next.
We have never observed a Population III star, or a pair-production supernova. Just hypothesized about them. It's odd that we've never seen a population III star- why isn't there a small red dwarf kicking around (which can easily have a lifetime of a trillion years) with no elements heavier than helium in it? (lithium is destroyed fairly quickly in a star) We think that this tells us something about star formation; there basically had to have been no small stars in the early universe, just very large ones. It's an open question as to why.
You might imagine a planet with life on it who are quite annoyed by this. They're minding their own business, when suddenly their star explodes and they're all dead. But this couldn't have happened. Remember there's no elements heavier than lithium at this point, and only a minuscule quantity of lithium at that. There wasn't enough "stuff" in the star's disk to form planets, and if a small chunk of lithium/lithium hydride managed to coalesce into a planetoid like object, there's not really any chemistry interesting enough to form life that can happen.
- ncmncm 6y ago> "There was no C12 anywhere in the universe..." ... outside of the stellar cores manufacturing it. Fascinating, I had never encountered this. Stellar core all electron-positron pairs, momentarily. So we get all the elements heavier than iron from these insane-o-novas and from ordinary supernovas, often by decay from even heavier isotopes. Do we know how much of each is from which? E.g., did all the platinum or something start from pop iii output?
- shagie 6y agoThe chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleosynthesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleosynthesis shows where different elements came from. A good bit of the heavier elements came from merging neutron stars.
- nwallin 6y ago> > There was no C12 anywhere in the universe until the first stars began dying. > ... outside of the stellar cores manufacturing it. Stellar cores do not produce C12 unless they've already started dying. If there is hydrogen in the core, it will fuse that into helium instead of fusing helium into C12. It's not just a question of "it does happen, just super rarely" either- stars will have an inert helium core surrounded by an expanding shell of hydrogen burning for quite some time before the helium is actually able to begin burning. In the case of the Sun, it's expected to enter the red giant phase, where it burns hydrogen around its inert helium core for 1.2 billion years before it begins burning helium into C12. > So we get all the elements heavier than iron from these insane-o-novas and from ordinary supernovas, often by decay from even heavier isotopes. Do we know how much of each is from which? E.g., did all the platinum or something start from pop iii output? We have a few models of sources of elements heavier than iron. Supernova are the primary source of almost everything from oxygen up to rubidium. Once a star goes from its red dwarf stage, where it's still burning hydrogen, into its asymptotic giant branch stage, there is a thin, very hot layer around the helium core, with a dense neutron flux. Heavy elements here will absorb stray neutrons and slowly grow up to elements as heavy as lead. This accounts for many of the elements heavier than rubidium. The rest of the elements heavier than rubidium are the result of merging neutron stars. See here for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_nucleosynthesis#Key_reactions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_nucleosynthesis#Key_re... Unrelated fun fact: for stars between about 0.5 and 2 times the mass of the Sun, nearly all of the helium burning happens all at once, in the space of a few minutes. For those brief moments, most of the energy generation in that star's galaxy is happening in that star; that star is more powerful than all the other energy sources in its galaxy combined. This is called helium flash. Surprisingly, this doesn't explode the star, all that energy is absorbed by the outer layers. Stars heavier than 2 times the mass of the Sun do not undergo helium flash, as they are heavy and massive enough to begin burning helium earlier and in a non-runaway fashion.