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>Ummm, the challenge was to use the keyboard though? No amount of rationalization will convince me that taking hands your hands off the keyboard is smoother tha

>Ummm, the challenge was to use the keyboard though? No amount of rationalization will convince me that taking hands your hands off the keyboard is smoother than leaving them on. No amount of rationalization will convince me that Windows shortcuts for accessibility are more productive than using your mouse in appropriate situations (some X11 tiling WMs do a better job, yes). See, I can make statements like this too. > I do enjoy watching junior devs struggling to find their lost full-screen workspace window by swiping furiously sideways with their trackpad though. For even more ridiculousness, I know I can always get a minute to read some news after I ask them to open Chrome devtools and wait while they try to get back to the original Chrome window afterwards. That's nice; you enjoy watching fledglings who don't know what they're doing struggle to use their tools effectively. That says nothing about achievable productivity in an environment.

wayneftw 6y ago
> See, I can make statements like this too. Yep. You can say whatever you want. I have never seen a mixed mouse and keyboard user do things faster or more efficiently than a pure keyboard user. Pure scientific empirical evidence is on my side and no amount of rationalization will change the fact that keyboard shortcuts are faster once you learn them. You can read about some studies surrounding this here: https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/30682/are-there-any-recent-studies-of-the-keyboard-vs-mouse-issue/30749#30749 https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/30682/are-there-any-r... > That's nice; you enjoy watching fledglings who don't know what they're doing struggle to use their tools effectively. Sure. Who doesn't? There are whole sub-reddits dedicated to this type of comedic performance. > That says nothing about achievable productivity in an environment. Yes, it does. That they resort to constantly using the trackpad to swipe between speaks loudly to the lack of obvious keyboard functionality.
- sbuk 6y ago
  > I have never seen a mixed mouse and keyboard user do things faster or more efficiently than a pure keyboard user You‘ve clearly never watched anyone use any kind of CAD or graphics application in that case!

wayneftw 6y ago

> See, I can make statements like this too. Yep. You can say whatever you want. I have never seen a mixed mouse and keyboard user do things faster or more efficiently than a pure keyboard user. Pure scientific empirical evidence is on my side and no amount of rationalization will change the fact that keyboard shortcuts are faster once you learn them. You can read about some studies surrounding this here: https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/30682/are-there-any-recent-studies-of-the-keyboard-vs-mouse-issue/30749#30749 https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/30682/are-there-any-r... > That's nice; you enjoy watching fledglings who don't know what they're doing struggle to use their tools effectively. Sure. Who doesn't? There are whole sub-reddits dedicated to this type of comedic performance. > That says nothing about achievable productivity in an environment. Yes, it does. That they resort to constantly using the trackpad to swipe between speaks loudly to the lack of obvious keyboard functionality.

sbuk 6y ago
> I have never seen a mixed mouse and keyboard user do things faster or more efficiently than a pure keyboard user You‘ve clearly never watched anyone use any kind of CAD or graphics application in that case!