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I agree - it's pretty simple. Videos are not games. Literally different words. If you think that Apple is in the wrong here, guys, you should just switch to And

I agree - it's pretty simple. Videos are not games. Literally different words. If you think that Apple is in the wrong here, guys, you should just switch to Android. It's a private company and they can do what they want. I appreciate their oversight, because now I know that I can't get hacked by Microsoft allowing bad games on their app!

mimsee 6y ago
You do realize that the games are not installed to the phone, right? But my point being that I can watch this game on YouTube but I cannot stream the desktop of a nearby datacenter and send my control input to it to stream the same game on my device, because Apple needs to validate the content on one of the apps before I can use it.
leereeves 6y ago
Honest question: how could you get hacked by a game running on a server and streaming the graphics to your phone?
- mimsee 6y ago
  I bet that coldtea and applethrow is the same person. Latter being a throwaway account created ~10mins ago.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Please don't do this here, it's against the rules.
    - mimsee 6y ago
      Oh I didn't know but noted!
  - coldtea 6y ago
    You bet and you'd be wrong. People can have opinions other than yours without it being some big conspiracy.
- applethrow 6y ago
  You probably couldn't get easily hacked because the iPhone is so advanced in its security, but it's not hard to imagine. It's a videogame, so its easy to get hacked - look at Steam. I'm no expert, I'm just glad Apple is continuing to restrict bad things on the platform. Can't wait for the next iPad.
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  - function_seven 6y ago
    Your reasoning applies identically to Netflix videos, Kindle e-books, and podcast files delivered via Overcast or some other podcatcher. It is hard to imagine, since the mechanics here are the same as streaming video. The code that's executing on your device is not being streamed. Images and video are.
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  - manuelabeledo 6y ago
    > I'm no expert That seems obvious. https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-zerodium/ https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-z...
- cafed00d 6y ago
  I'd imagine it depends on what granularity "interaction" means: 1. Do you have a chatbox/channel in-game? 2. Can you plug-in usernames/passwords to login to your game accounts? 3. Is your game account tied to social networks etc? 34. If you purchased the game outside of the streaming company and had that tied to a credit card etc then can a notorious game streamed through the app make you inadvertently rack up charges on that card? I'm just spit-balling here. These are the top attack vectors that come to mind. IDK, maybe I'm thinking wayyyyy outta the box here.
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rainbow-road 6y ago
> Videos are not games. Literally different words. Well yes, but this is a game streaming app. It just captures input from the user and sends back a video of the game, running in the cloud. > It's a private company and they can do what they want. And we are individuals who can complain as much as we want; this is a non-argument. > I appreciate their oversight, because now I know that I can't get hacked by Microsoft allowing bad games on their app! The games are totally isolated from your phone, so they can't hack you, unless they're somehow using the input from your phone as a ridiculously low-bandwidth side channel.

mimsee 6y ago

You do realize that the games are not installed to the phone, right? But my point being that I can watch this game on YouTube but I cannot stream the desktop of a nearby datacenter and send my control input to it to stream the same game on my device, because Apple needs to validate the content on one of the apps before I can use it.

leereeves 6y ago

Honest question: how could you get hacked by a game running on a server and streaming the graphics to your phone?

mimsee 6y ago
I bet that coldtea and applethrow is the same person. Latter being a throwaway account created ~10mins ago.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Please don't do this here, it's against the rules.
  - mimsee 6y ago
    Oh I didn't know but noted!
- coldtea 6y ago
  You bet and you'd be wrong. People can have opinions other than yours without it being some big conspiracy.
applethrow 6y ago
You probably couldn't get easily hacked because the iPhone is so advanced in its security, but it's not hard to imagine. It's a videogame, so its easy to get hacked - look at Steam. I'm no expert, I'm just glad Apple is continuing to restrict bad things on the platform. Can't wait for the next iPad.
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- function_seven 6y ago
  Your reasoning applies identically to Netflix videos, Kindle e-books, and podcast files delivered via Overcast or some other podcatcher. It is hard to imagine, since the mechanics here are the same as streaming video. The code that's executing on your device is not being streamed. Images and video are.
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- manuelabeledo 6y ago
  > I'm no expert That seems obvious. https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-zerodium/ https://www.wired.com/story/android-zero-day-more-than-ios-z...
cafed00d 6y ago
I'd imagine it depends on what granularity "interaction" means: 1. Do you have a chatbox/channel in-game? 2. Can you plug-in usernames/passwords to login to your game accounts? 3. Is your game account tied to social networks etc? 34. If you purchased the game outside of the streaming company and had that tied to a credit card etc then can a notorious game streamed through the app make you inadvertently rack up charges on that card? I'm just spit-balling here. These are the top attack vectors that come to mind. IDK, maybe I'm thinking wayyyyy outta the box here.

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rainbow-road 6y ago

> Videos are not games. Literally different words. Well yes, but this is a game streaming app. It just captures input from the user and sends back a video of the game, running in the cloud. > It's a private company and they can do what they want. And we are individuals who can complain as much as we want; this is a non-argument. > I appreciate their oversight, because now I know that I can't get hacked by Microsoft allowing bad games on their app! The games are totally isolated from your phone, so they can't hack you, unless they're somehow using the input from your phone as a ridiculously low-bandwidth side channel.