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I always get the feeling that people love ORMs because they don't want to learn SQL. Because if you do learn some SQL, then the problems with ORMs become annoy
by marcus_holmes 6y ago
I always get the feeling that people love ORMs because they don't want to learn SQL.
Because if you do learn some SQL, then the problems with ORMs become annoyingly apparent.
I agree that most Django coders will be fine with the ORM. I guess I don't see that as a good thing, though.
- sago 6y ago> I always get the feeling that people love ORMs because they don't want to learn SQL. I suspect that's the problem. It's neither my feeling or my experience. Every platform/language/OS/chip I know has annoyingly apparent problems. In my experience high-self-conidence-low-self-awareness folks are too keen to drop-level and 'make it right'. And love feeling how smart they are ('everyone who disagrees is obviously not as smart!) Too often 'smart-guys' cost more, long term. And I'm not ragging on you. That was me in my 20s. Embarrassingly.
- marcus_holmes 6y agohehe, I'm in my 50's and have been doing this for >25 years. I still don't know where that line is
- jordic 6y agoAgree, at least for me, I don't discovered the sqlsuperpowers till I got inside it... I would love to see some of this pretty clever orm migrations applied on a busy potgresql server.. with a bit of concurrency... :)