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The fact that the social justice conversation in America talks only about black people, as this post does as well, shows the majority of people only care about

The fact that the social justice conversation in America talks only about black people, as this post does as well, shows the majority of people only care about social justice issues when the minority group becomes big and loud enough. I just skimmed through the article (it's long, I don't have time to read the entire thing). I completely disagree about her overall statement. I prefer not to talk politics in my public twitter account that is used to follow people on topics I'm interested in (politics is not one of them). That doesn't mean I don't comment on issues like police brutality, human rights, sexual harassment, etc. But for me those things have nothing to do with politics.

tonystubblebine 6y ago
Just FYI, that's not fact. The social justice movement talks a lot about trans people for instance. It's hard to go to a black lives matter event and not see black trans lives matter signs. And then literally, the post does mention gender and trans.
- faitswulff 6y ago
  Right. GP is factually incorrect. The blog post notes a few axes (hence the term intersectionality) commonly under consideration in social justice spheres, most of which are not solely about black people (though there are black people who experience all of the variations along these axes): > I’m a white, cis, female, straight, abled (currently; this can change) US citizen with a PhD, raised by parents with advanced degrees. Gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, citizenship, education, and affluence, respectively. Another notable one would be incarceration status, at least in the USA.
duxup 6y ago
> the social justice conversation in America On Twitter... There have been efforts, advocacy, and 'conversation' about lots of such topics beyond just what folks yell about on twitter. Twitter is a weird little world, and it is not 'in America'.... and arguably there is very little 'conversation' on their either.
kgonza 6y ago
The minority group is probably louder but if you've paid attention to demographics it's actually become smaller. But it should tell you a lot about your society that people are grudgingly treated with a little more respect only after they become "big and loud enough."
anigbrowl 6y ago
That doesn't mean I don't comment on issues like police brutality, human rights, sexual harassment, etc. But for me those things have nothing to do with politics. How could they not? Such issues are frequently the subject of legal contestation, and the writing and administration of laws are inherently political. If you mean that you'd rather focus on policy issues than party identity that's understandable, but they're a corollary of the representative government model. Further, there are relations between the issues you mention, eg the set of people who care a lot (or not) about police brutality tends to overlap with the set of people who prioritize (or discount)_human rights, and so on.

tonystubblebine 6y ago

Just FYI, that's not fact. The social justice movement talks a lot about trans people for instance. It's hard to go to a black lives matter event and not see black trans lives matter signs. And then literally, the post does mention gender and trans.

faitswulff 6y ago
Right. GP is factually incorrect. The blog post notes a few axes (hence the term intersectionality) commonly under consideration in social justice spheres, most of which are not solely about black people (though there are black people who experience all of the variations along these axes): > I’m a white, cis, female, straight, abled (currently; this can change) US citizen with a PhD, raised by parents with advanced degrees. Gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, citizenship, education, and affluence, respectively. Another notable one would be incarceration status, at least in the USA.

duxup 6y ago

> the social justice conversation in America On Twitter... There have been efforts, advocacy, and 'conversation' about lots of such topics beyond just what folks yell about on twitter. Twitter is a weird little world, and it is not 'in America'.... and arguably there is very little 'conversation' on their either.

kgonza 6y ago

The minority group is probably louder but if you've paid attention to demographics it's actually become smaller. But it should tell you a lot about your society that people are grudgingly treated with a little more respect only after they become "big and loud enough."

anigbrowl 6y ago

That doesn't mean I don't comment on issues like police brutality, human rights, sexual harassment, etc. But for me those things have nothing to do with politics. How could they not? Such issues are frequently the subject of legal contestation, and the writing and administration of laws are inherently political. If you mean that you'd rather focus on policy issues than party identity that's understandable, but they're a corollary of the representative government model. Further, there are relations between the issues you mention, eg the set of people who care a lot (or not) about police brutality tends to overlap with the set of people who prioritize (or discount)_human rights, and so on.