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Americans listen to propaganda every day. Do you really think FOX News has the best interests of Americans at heart? No, it’s just another one of the propaganda

Americans listen to propaganda every day. Do you really think FOX News has the best interests of Americans at heart? No, it’s just another one of the propaganda outlets millions of Americans use every day. In the end this order is just a reflection of Trump’s xenophobia and blatant disregard for justice. He never once attempted to engage TikTok in discussion, he dismissed everything the company said outright, and now he is forcing a sale of the company to the US.

ericmay 6y ago
Yea but even Fox News isn't anti-American. I certainly disagree with most that would come out, but they aren't against free markets, free speech, freedom of religion, etc. > In the end this order is just a reflection of Trump’s xenophobia and blatant disregard for justice. He never once attempted to engage TikTok in discussion, he dismissed everything the company said outright, and now he is forcing a sale of the company to the US. Let's not forget that the China issue has bipartisan support in the US. I also don't think there is any discussion that needs to happen with Bytedance or TikTok. What are we supposed to talk about? Did the Chinese have similar discussions with Google? We played nice and gave them the opportunity to join us in the world community and they decided to be adversarial. These are some of the consequences of that.
- xvector 6y ago
  > Yea but even Fox News isn't anti-American. And yet they are still a propaganda platform, which is the point. Whether they are anti-American or not is debatable. At the most I would say they do not care for Americans, only their profits. Their downplay of COVID has undoubtedly contributed to the deaths of thousands of Americans. > I also don't think there is any discussion that needs to happen with Bytedance or TikTok. What are we supposed to talk about? You do not believe in due process? TikTok has stated that no data is overturned and all data is stored in the US. At the very least a discussion around this would involve third party audits prior to a ban. Furthermore, a sane and reasonable leader would pass laws for TikTok to adhere to prior to a ban, but there was no discussion about what steps TikTok could actually take to assuage these fears. Just baseless accusations. > Did the Chinese have similar discussions with Google? Google and Facebook were free to operate in China so long as they adhered to the law. Both companies chose to pull out as they found the laws objectionable. Other companies - LinkedIn, GitHub - adhere to the law and are free to continue operating in China. Trump is not giving TikTok a law to adhere to. That is why this is different, unprecedented, and unjust.

ericmay 6y ago

Yea but even Fox News isn't anti-American. I certainly disagree with most that would come out, but they aren't against free markets, free speech, freedom of religion, etc. > In the end this order is just a reflection of Trump’s xenophobia and blatant disregard for justice. He never once attempted to engage TikTok in discussion, he dismissed everything the company said outright, and now he is forcing a sale of the company to the US. Let's not forget that the China issue has bipartisan support in the US. I also don't think there is any discussion that needs to happen with Bytedance or TikTok. What are we supposed to talk about? Did the Chinese have similar discussions with Google? We played nice and gave them the opportunity to join us in the world community and they decided to be adversarial. These are some of the consequences of that.

xvector 6y ago
> Yea but even Fox News isn't anti-American. And yet they are still a propaganda platform, which is the point. Whether they are anti-American or not is debatable. At the most I would say they do not care for Americans, only their profits. Their downplay of COVID has undoubtedly contributed to the deaths of thousands of Americans. > I also don't think there is any discussion that needs to happen with Bytedance or TikTok. What are we supposed to talk about? You do not believe in due process? TikTok has stated that no data is overturned and all data is stored in the US. At the very least a discussion around this would involve third party audits prior to a ban. Furthermore, a sane and reasonable leader would pass laws for TikTok to adhere to prior to a ban, but there was no discussion about what steps TikTok could actually take to assuage these fears. Just baseless accusations. > Did the Chinese have similar discussions with Google? Google and Facebook were free to operate in China so long as they adhered to the law. Both companies chose to pull out as they found the laws objectionable. Other companies - LinkedIn, GitHub - adhere to the law and are free to continue operating in China. Trump is not giving TikTok a law to adhere to. That is why this is different, unprecedented, and unjust.