I'll agree that the Django ORM isn't very good once your queries get moderately complex. But I have been underwhelmed by SQLalchemy having tried it recently. It

I'll agree that the Django ORM isn't very good once your queries get moderately complex. But I have been underwhelmed by SQLalchemy having tried it recently. It's not intuitive compared to Django's and in the end for complex query I just ended up in raw SQL anyway - as I would have in Django's ORM.