3 ms·

The bans will be blocked by courts and the administration knows that. It pushes the orders forward anyways for purpose of political communication. It is not in

by chvid 6y ago

The bans will be blocked by courts and the administration knows that. It pushes the orders forward anyways for purpose of political communication. It is not in the US strategic interest to "balkanise" the internet; as it is now the US has enormous influence over the global internet. Why replace that with something much smaller?

miracle2k 6y ago
If it is indeed blocked by courts, this would validate those of us who do not believe that this action should happen, in the way that it does, in a free, open and rules-based democracy. It would shame all those, including those SV thought leaders, who defend the US now engaging in the practice of "banning apps" based on short-sighted opportunism and "what about them" arguments, with now regard to fundamental principals we are supposed to stand for.
xvector 6y ago
Will it be blocked by the courts? I find this ban detestable but from what I’ve read Trump has plenty of avenues from which he can pursue this ban, thanks to Congress slowly giving more and more power to the President.
magicsmoke 6y ago
From the state department publication: https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/ https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-... "Momentum for the Clean Network program is growing. More than thirty countries and territories are now Clean Countries, and many of the world’s biggest telecommunications companies are Clean Telcos. All have committed to exclusively using trusted vendors in their Clean Networks." Looks like the goal isn't to balkanise the global internet. Rather, to create a zone where Chinese companies are banned from accessing it at all by integrating other countries into the Clean Netwok program starting with the US. Unlike China's great firewall which is purely domestic in scope, the Clean Network has global ambitions.

by chvid 6y ago

miracle2k 6y ago

If it is indeed blocked by courts, this would validate those of us who do not believe that this action should happen, in the way that it does, in a free, open and rules-based democracy. It would shame all those, including those SV thought leaders, who defend the US now engaging in the practice of "banning apps" based on short-sighted opportunism and "what about them" arguments, with now regard to fundamental principals we are supposed to stand for.

xvector 6y ago

Will it be blocked by the courts? I find this ban detestable but from what I’ve read Trump has plenty of avenues from which he can pursue this ban, thanks to Congress slowly giving more and more power to the President.

magicsmoke 6y ago

From the state department publication: https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/ https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-... "Momentum for the Clean Network program is growing. More than thirty countries and territories are now Clean Countries, and many of the world’s biggest telecommunications companies are Clean Telcos. All have committed to exclusively using trusted vendors in their Clean Networks." Looks like the goal isn't to balkanise the global internet. Rather, to create a zone where Chinese companies are banned from accessing it at all by integrating other countries into the Clean Netwok program starting with the US. Unlike China's great firewall which is purely domestic in scope, the Clean Network has global ambitions.