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You are again evading the pertinent question. For the ideologues, foxes are an endangered species: https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/tierschutz-fuchs/ https://ww

You are again evading the pertinent question. For the ideologues, foxes are an endangered species: https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/tierschutz-fuchs/ https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/tierschutz-fuchs/ It is a crime to hurt a fox! But I am sure that if there are 5 foxes per person in Germany, there will be a new "Referentenentwurf" and everyone will ask how this could possibly have happened. If you cannot see how this hurts credibility, you have to get out of your ecological bubble. Why should people believe numbers on insects if numbers for other animals are clearly wrong?

veddox 6y ago
OK, let's clear up some confusion here. You need to differentiate between endangered species and protected species, and between biodiversity conservation ("Naturschutz") and animal rights ("Tierschutz"). The fox is not an endangered species, as both the German and the global red lists show (https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/23062/46190249 https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/23062/46190249, https://www.rote-liste-zentrum.de/de/Detailseite.html?species_id=816&q=S%C3%A4ugetiere https://www.rote-liste-zentrum.de/de/Detailseite.html?specie...). It is, however, a protected species in Germany (Anhang 1 BArtSchV), though at the lower protection level ("besonders geschützt", not "streng geschützt"). Note, however, that there are multiple reasons to give a species legal protection. These include a need for conservation (not the case here), but also ethical implications (higher animals like birds and mammals generally enjoy higher protection levels than insects or plants) and cultural reasons (in this case, the fox is a huntable species, which means that it falls under the Jagdgesetz). In short: yes, the fox is protected, but that doesn't automatically mean that it's also endangered.

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You are again evading the pertinent question. For the ideologues, foxes are an endangered species: https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/tierschutz-fuchs/ https://ww

by Akeewiu 6y ago

veddox 6y ago
OK, let's clear up some confusion here. You need to differentiate between endangered species and protected species, and between biodiversity conservation ("Naturschutz") and animal rights ("Tierschutz"). The fox is not an endangered species, as both the German and the global red lists show (https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/23062/46190249 https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/23062/46190249, https://www.rote-liste-zentrum.de/de/Detailseite.html?species_id=816&q=S%C3%A4ugetiere https://www.rote-liste-zentrum.de/de/Detailseite.html?specie...). It is, however, a protected species in Germany (Anhang 1 BArtSchV), though at the lower protection level ("besonders geschützt", not "streng geschützt"). Note, however, that there are multiple reasons to give a species legal protection. These include a need for conservation (not the case here), but also ethical implications (higher animals like birds and mammals generally enjoy higher protection levels than insects or plants) and cultural reasons (in this case, the fox is a huntable species, which means that it falls under the Jagdgesetz). In short: yes, the fox is protected, but that doesn't automatically mean that it's also endangered.