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China is already being very patient in waiting until the reelection. The US military is flaunting its military hardware near the mainland, and all this time Chi

China is already being very patient in waiting until the reelection. The US military is flaunting its military hardware near the mainland, and all this time China is basically ignoring the threat. But the Trump administration is very active in launching more attacks. If you follow the news on what they've been doing to Chinese companies, the past month has been absolutely insane. The attacks are only getting faster and faster, as the Trump administration gets increasingly desperate to win a reelection. Another problem is that all these attacks leave behind permanent damage. It's not just a matter of ignoring the attacks. I fear that at some point, we get past some boiling point, and things erupt into a hot war.

seemack 6y ago
I apparently don't follow the news on what they've been doing to Chinese companies. Do you have any links so that I can learn more?
- FooBarWidget 6y ago
  My favorite is Tom Fowdy on Twitter. Disclaimer: he leans towards pro China. Here is what he said two weeks ago about how much happened in the past two weeks. https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1285845346447499265 https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1285845346447499265 "As I noted a while ago, the US is on a roll announcing 2-3 anti-China measures a week. There has been one roughly every two days. It's just non-stop -Closes the Chinese consulate in Houston -Charges two nationals for hacking -Adds more companies to the entity list over Xinjiang -Bans federal contractors buying from Huawei -Ups ante in the South China sea -Blacklists officials -Removes Hong Kong's special status -Daily Cold War rhetoric from Pompeo -Restricts Chinese student visas -Ends fulbright scholar program Hong Kong -Contemplating banning TikTok Most of the above is in the past TWO WEEKS alone."
  - jimmydorry 6y ago
    All of these were justified though: -Closes the Chinese consulate in Houston >Allegedly caught spying -Charges two nationals for hacking >Conducting justice shouldn't be seen as a deliberate attempt to increase tension -Adds more companies to the entity list over Xinjiang >Black listing companies involved in perpetuating genocide against the Uighurs doesn't seem controversial to me -Bans federal contractors buying from Huawei >National security -Ups ante in the South China sea >Allowing China to claim that region puts a substantial amount of trade in jeopardy, due to many established shipping routes going through there. China is the aggressor here, regardless of what the media tries to portray. -Blacklists officials >You need to be more specific, but I assume you are referring to more Uighur genocide related sanctions -Removes Hong Kong's special status >Following the terms of the Hong Kong special status trade agreement that hinges on it being a self-governed state. (It no longer is) -Daily Cold War rhetoric from Pompeo >Sabre rattling, but could be taken as aggressive action depending on whether Pompeo was talking about any of the points above. If so, then it's warranted. -Restricts Chinese student visas >The world is in lock-down. Even countries heavily reliant on chinese student spending, have temporarily restricted such visas. -Ends fulbright scholar program Hong Kong >Why continue such programs when the status of such a country changes? Those programs and trade agreements have to be renegotiated. -Contemplating banning TikTok >Reciprocal treatment of western social media. So far the first and only deliberate escalation of tensions against China, on this list. Justified... but certainly an escalation.
    - FooBarWidget 6y ago
      I am not expressing an opinion here on whether they are justified. Just that they happened.
- whoevercares 6y ago
  https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/ https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-... Just wow
  - igravious 6y ago
    Super duper Orwellian given what we know about the NSA, GCHQ, GCSB, CSE, ASD and other Five Eyes shenanigans from Snowden. edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Organisations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Organisations
meragrin_ 6y ago
> as the Trump administration gets increasingly desperate to win a reelection. Or maybe, just maybe, he is doing something which he believes is the right thing to do and will help Americans? The ratcheting up could just be a tactic to force the next administration into a position to actually deal with the dysfunctional relationship rather than always rolling over and hoping things will be different like previous administrations.

seemack 6y ago

I apparently don't follow the news on what they've been doing to Chinese companies. Do you have any links so that I can learn more?

FooBarWidget 6y ago
My favorite is Tom Fowdy on Twitter. Disclaimer: he leans towards pro China. Here is what he said two weeks ago about how much happened in the past two weeks. https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1285845346447499265 https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1285845346447499265 "As I noted a while ago, the US is on a roll announcing 2-3 anti-China measures a week. There has been one roughly every two days. It's just non-stop -Closes the Chinese consulate in Houston -Charges two nationals for hacking -Adds more companies to the entity list over Xinjiang -Bans federal contractors buying from Huawei -Ups ante in the South China sea -Blacklists officials -Removes Hong Kong's special status -Daily Cold War rhetoric from Pompeo -Restricts Chinese student visas -Ends fulbright scholar program Hong Kong -Contemplating banning TikTok Most of the above is in the past TWO WEEKS alone."
- jimmydorry 6y ago
  All of these were justified though: -Closes the Chinese consulate in Houston >Allegedly caught spying -Charges two nationals for hacking >Conducting justice shouldn't be seen as a deliberate attempt to increase tension -Adds more companies to the entity list over Xinjiang >Black listing companies involved in perpetuating genocide against the Uighurs doesn't seem controversial to me -Bans federal contractors buying from Huawei >National security -Ups ante in the South China sea >Allowing China to claim that region puts a substantial amount of trade in jeopardy, due to many established shipping routes going through there. China is the aggressor here, regardless of what the media tries to portray. -Blacklists officials >You need to be more specific, but I assume you are referring to more Uighur genocide related sanctions -Removes Hong Kong's special status >Following the terms of the Hong Kong special status trade agreement that hinges on it being a self-governed state. (It no longer is) -Daily Cold War rhetoric from Pompeo >Sabre rattling, but could be taken as aggressive action depending on whether Pompeo was talking about any of the points above. If so, then it's warranted. -Restricts Chinese student visas >The world is in lock-down. Even countries heavily reliant on chinese student spending, have temporarily restricted such visas. -Ends fulbright scholar program Hong Kong >Why continue such programs when the status of such a country changes? Those programs and trade agreements have to be renegotiated. -Contemplating banning TikTok >Reciprocal treatment of western social media. So far the first and only deliberate escalation of tensions against China, on this list. Justified... but certainly an escalation.
  - FooBarWidget 6y ago
    I am not expressing an opinion here on whether they are justified. Just that they happened.
whoevercares 6y ago
https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-network-to-safeguard-americas-assets/ https://www.state.gov/announcing-the-expansion-of-the-clean-... Just wow
- igravious 6y ago
  Super duper Orwellian given what we know about the NSA, GCHQ, GCSB, CSE, ASD and other Five Eyes shenanigans from Snowden. edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Organisations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Organisations

meragrin_ 6y ago

> as the Trump administration gets increasingly desperate to win a reelection. Or maybe, just maybe, he is doing something which he believes is the right thing to do and will help Americans? The ratcheting up could just be a tactic to force the next administration into a position to actually deal with the dysfunctional relationship rather than always rolling over and hoping things will be different like previous administrations.