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I think I understand the core of your argument, which, if the world were perfect and everyone had equal access to resources, I might agree with. But the reality

I think I understand the core of your argument, which, if the world were perfect and everyone had equal access to resources, I might agree with. But the reality is that there are a lot of people that cannot change their circumstances, do not have the money for medication/therapy, or do not have the social or cultural support for acquiring or even expressing the desire for medication/therapy. I am wondering if you have ever experienced severe depression, be it in yourself or in someone close to you. "Hatred for life" is a massive overestimate of the amount of autonomy someone has over their own thoughts when depressed.

badrabbit 6y ago
I have experienced all that and more. I speak my experience not my opinion. I am interested in facts not emotions. Facts work. Let us agree 1+1=2 then let's talk about 1+3 and 2+1,etc... Let us agree that even if you are helpless and hopeless against the realities of life, that is the driver of suicidal tendencies (not depression neccesarily). How can we solve a problem if we don't agree it is a problem and we don't agree what the prolem is? Then let us talk about the impossible and let us talk about defeating reality. I would love to talk about how to overcome the impossible. Or we can agree a person is hopeless and helpless against life , they lack control over their thoughts or emotionsand for that reason their only escape is suicide. But let us use facts and critical thinking. I tried emotions, I tried it all but only truth helped me. Why are so many technical people on here dead set on the impossible and a hopeless reality? This very technology we use to talk to each other was impossible. Not improbable but dead set impossible even half a century or less ago! It should be impossible or me to be alive and talking to you but here I am! Why is hope so unpopular? Ok, you can kill yourself if you want, society approves if it makes you feel better. Now can we talk honestly and critically about the facts, and can you pose factual adversarial challenges against my argument?

badrabbit 6y ago

I have experienced all that and more. I speak my experience not my opinion. I am interested in facts not emotions. Facts work. Let us agree 1+1=2 then let's talk about 1+3 and 2+1,etc... Let us agree that even if you are helpless and hopeless against the realities of life, that is the driver of suicidal tendencies (not depression neccesarily). How can we solve a problem if we don't agree it is a problem and we don't agree what the prolem is? Then let us talk about the impossible and let us talk about defeating reality. I would love to talk about how to overcome the impossible. Or we can agree a person is hopeless and helpless against life , they lack control over their thoughts or emotionsand for that reason their only escape is suicide. But let us use facts and critical thinking. I tried emotions, I tried it all but only truth helped me. Why are so many technical people on here dead set on the impossible and a hopeless reality? This very technology we use to talk to each other was impossible. Not improbable but dead set impossible even half a century or less ago! It should be impossible or me to be alive and talking to you but here I am! Why is hope so unpopular? Ok, you can kill yourself if you want, society approves if it makes you feel better. Now can we talk honestly and critically about the facts, and can you pose factual adversarial challenges against my argument?