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"Nobody likes working with lying cheaters, regardless of their stated goals." Of course. I certainly don't like working with cheaters. But are you sure that th

"Nobody likes working with lying cheaters, regardless of their stated goals." Of course. I certainly don't like working with cheaters. But are you sure that that's what the study is actually measuring? Does it really prove that someone is more likely to be a cheater and a liar in a corporate environment if they exhibit a dubious and simplistic measure of victimization? I think it's dangerous to update my priors and increase my suspicion of people whom I deem to demonstrate above average victimization for their demographic. Guess who that would hurt the most? How arbitrary would my judgment be? Even if we can definitively say that the correlations in the study hold, the error terms, effect magnitude, and the practical difficulty in reproducing the study's controls render its findings impracticable in most contexts. Thankfully, I haven't met many capital B Bad people/cheaters/pathological liars in my life, at least I don't think so. The worst people I met were very confident (the c in con artist) and didn't seem to have a victim complex.

merpnderp 6y ago
I wonder if you've ever had to deal with managing or employing people. From my experience there are just some people who think they were born for greatness and your job is beneath them, and they'll half-ass it, abuse sick/flex time, and do as little as possible at work, never realizing that they can't be born for greatness if they can't even manage to do their current job. And they will definitely claim to be victims of this, that, and the other when called out, no matter how badly they've screwed their co-workers or employer. One of the greatest draws of a guaranteed minimum income is to get the lying slackers out of the job market. Maybe they'll get bored watching Netflix and find something useful to be productive at, maybe not, but they suck to work with and employ, making everyone less productive who has to deal with their crap.

merpnderp 6y ago

I wonder if you've ever had to deal with managing or employing people. From my experience there are just some people who think they were born for greatness and your job is beneath them, and they'll half-ass it, abuse sick/flex time, and do as little as possible at work, never realizing that they can't be born for greatness if they can't even manage to do their current job. And they will definitely claim to be victims of this, that, and the other when called out, no matter how badly they've screwed their co-workers or employer. One of the greatest draws of a guaranteed minimum income is to get the lying slackers out of the job market. Maybe they'll get bored watching Netflix and find something useful to be productive at, maybe not, but they suck to work with and employ, making everyone less productive who has to deal with their crap.