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I think everyone loses regardless, but I don't think we should prop up businesses, capitalism should be a game that you play to win or play to lose. Government

I think everyone loses regardless, but I don't think we should prop up businesses, capitalism should be a game that you play to win or play to lose. Government needs to stop getting involved period. Help at the bottom - prop up the citizens who the government IS responsible for, let the rest duke it out. Corporations are not citizens. Government has no duty to help corporations. But, yeah everybody will hurt by this, sure. Malls will close, businesses will close inside malls, investors will hurt, and workers who worked at those businesses lose, even some consumers who enjoy malls lose, cities lose because they become blight, many probably get abandoned and become gang hideouts or something. Homeowners lose because home values drop, but lots of other factors will be causing a lot of the cycles above to happen to. Next 10 years is a hazardous wasteland for prosperity. Should just start bulldozing some of them and building green spaces and parks. I have a feeling open air is going to be a big trend over the next decade (less chance of viral spread).

dencodev 6y ago
Lmao gang hideouts
Nasrudith 6y ago
You can look at what actually happens in abandoned malls - bored teenagers and college students calling themselves "urban explorers" check them out and engage in some graffiti in a long abandoned site or trysts at most. Gangs would find them goddamned useless as territory because there is no income stream there. There isn't anyone to make money selling drugs to or johns for clients to pimp out. That is why the damn mall closed in the first place! The low traffic ironically makes it a poor place to lay low as "I saw some guy enter an hour or so ago" becomes useful instead of vague and useless. That similar noticability and lack of good pretexts makes it a poor choice for a meth lab compared to a random trailer or basement. They wind up such an economic wasteland that they aren't even good for criminal purposes which is vaguely impressive. That is essentially the one "upside" of their separation from residences. They aren't like the Opium Den/Crackhouse/Methhouse because they lack the attractiveness to be an attractive nuisance.

dencodev 6y ago

Lmao gang hideouts

Nasrudith 6y ago

You can look at what actually happens in abandoned malls - bored teenagers and college students calling themselves "urban explorers" check them out and engage in some graffiti in a long abandoned site or trysts at most. Gangs would find them goddamned useless as territory because there is no income stream there. There isn't anyone to make money selling drugs to or johns for clients to pimp out. That is why the damn mall closed in the first place! The low traffic ironically makes it a poor place to lay low as "I saw some guy enter an hour or so ago" becomes useful instead of vague and useless. That similar noticability and lack of good pretexts makes it a poor choice for a meth lab compared to a random trailer or basement. They wind up such an economic wasteland that they aren't even good for criminal purposes which is vaguely impressive. That is essentially the one "upside" of their separation from residences. They aren't like the Opium Den/Crackhouse/Methhouse because they lack the attractiveness to be an attractive nuisance.