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> This IS NOT BIAS! This is physics! Bias doesn't happen in physics. Bias happens where humans and physics interact. > Medical personnel are trained to accoun
by throwanem 6y ago
> This IS NOT BIAS! This is physics!
Bias doesn't happen in physics. Bias happens where humans and physics interact.
> Medical personnel are trained to account for this
Medical personnel aren't the only people who use pulse oximeters and need them to read reliably. Beyond that, this thread and the article it discusses are full of examples of why "medical personnel are trained" isn't enough of an answer here.
- dredmorbius 6y agoBoth measurement and social/cultural bias occur in physics: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="bias%20in%20physics"&btnG=Search&as_sdt=800000000001&as_sdtp=on https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q="bias%20in%20physics"&b... "Cargo Cult Science" (esp. Millikan). http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm Einstein to M. Curie: https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/04/19/einstein-curie-letter/ https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/04/19/einstein-curie-lett... Planck: Science advances one funeral at a time. (See also Kuhn.) https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_Planck https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_Planck
- throwanem 6y agoYes, and the point that I'm making is that "this isn't bias, this is physics" is missing the point. Yes, the way in which varying wavelengths of light interact with varying configurations of bulk matter is a physical phenomenon, and not subject to bias. But that isn't the same as saying, as the comment to which I originally replied seemed to do, that no bias can exist in the way in which that phenomenon is interpreted by humans.
- dredmorbius 6y agoI suspect instances of bias introduced by other-than cultural, social, human, and perceptual dynamics are also present.