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Same here. I used to buy Google hardware exclusively for my mobile needs because I wanted the pure AOSP experience (without all the crap the other vendors load)

Same here. I used to buy Google hardware exclusively for my mobile needs because I wanted the pure AOSP experience (without all the crap the other vendors load), but it was very hard (Nexus 5X) to impossible (Pixel C) to get hardware replacement parts, and the premature end of security updates were the final straw for me. A friend recommended Android One to me [1]. Basically, it's pure AOSP on third-party hardware. I bought a Nokia 5.2 just to try it out, with the intention of getting the 7.3 when it comes out and I liked the Nokia experience. And I do -- it's simple AOSP. Nokia promises 3 years of software updates and 5 years for security. [1] https://www.android.com/one/ https://www.android.com/one/

SahAssar 6y ago
AOSP is completely different than pure Android. What you call AOSP is basically android without (other) vendor crap, but real AOSP is also without all of googles proprietery stuff (like google play, push notifications and so on). So AOSP is basically pure android without googles crap.
- ckastner 6y ago
  I stand corrected. Well, whatever the official name is, I meant the most pure version of Android but including the Google apps (which I haven't managed to get rid of yet entirely).
parliament32 6y ago
>Android One phones have the Google Assistant built in That's not AOSP. AOSP has no google apps at all.
moviuro 6y ago
The serious downside to Android One is the absence of GCam. That photo app is simply the single best one out there. I own a Nokia 7 Plus, and it comes with a Camera app that only shoots blurry photos, even though I don't have shaky hands. Finding a GCam version that worked was a major PITA: I pretty much tried every version here [0] I'm getting a Pixel 5 on day one, for the camera, camera app and security updates. [0] https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
- mrguyorama 6y ago
  Meanwhile, the Pixel 2XL's default camera app has the single worst video taking experience I've ever seen, comparable to a $100 flip cam from 2008. 1080p at 30fps is all you seem to get, and it suffers from the same max 4gb file size issue that mp4 has had forever, causing skips and stutters when it stops one video file and starts a new one, which happens more often than you would expect because despite the low video quality, the encoding is incredibly inefficient
- llampx 6y ago
  The Pixel isn't the only game in town for good cameras. Although if you add the constraint that the software extras and bloatware have to be google, then yes it is.
  - moviuro 6y ago
    Up-to-date phones with guaranteed software updates, usable interface, and good camera, but not Pixel? Well, I'm interested, but somehow sure that's just a dream. Links or it doesn't exist. Edit: I specified Android, but really, I just want a phone with a standard port (USB C) and my apps (WireGuard, NextCloud, Google Photos, etc.)
    - mceachen 6y ago
      OnePlus has promised system updates for several years (we'll see). The 7 pro main camera is on par with the pixel 2.

SahAssar 6y ago

AOSP is completely different than pure Android. What you call AOSP is basically android without (other) vendor crap, but real AOSP is also without all of googles proprietery stuff (like google play, push notifications and so on). So AOSP is basically pure android without googles crap.

ckastner 6y ago
I stand corrected. Well, whatever the official name is, I meant the most pure version of Android but including the Google apps (which I haven't managed to get rid of yet entirely).

parliament32 6y ago

>Android One phones have the Google Assistant built in That's not AOSP. AOSP has no google apps at all.

moviuro 6y ago

The serious downside to Android One is the absence of GCam. That photo app is simply the single best one out there. I own a Nokia 7 Plus, and it comes with a Camera app that only shoots blurry photos, even though I don't have shaky hands. Finding a GCam version that worked was a major PITA: I pretty much tried every version here [0] I'm getting a Pixel 5 on day one, for the camera, camera app and security updates. [0] https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

mrguyorama 6y ago
Meanwhile, the Pixel 2XL's default camera app has the single worst video taking experience I've ever seen, comparable to a $100 flip cam from 2008. 1080p at 30fps is all you seem to get, and it suffers from the same max 4gb file size issue that mp4 has had forever, causing skips and stutters when it stops one video file and starts a new one, which happens more often than you would expect because despite the low video quality, the encoding is incredibly inefficient
llampx 6y ago
The Pixel isn't the only game in town for good cameras. Although if you add the constraint that the software extras and bloatware have to be google, then yes it is.
- moviuro 6y ago
  Up-to-date phones with guaranteed software updates, usable interface, and good camera, but not Pixel? Well, I'm interested, but somehow sure that's just a dream. Links or it doesn't exist. Edit: I specified Android, but really, I just want a phone with a standard port (USB C) and my apps (WireGuard, NextCloud, Google Photos, etc.)
  - mceachen 6y ago
    OnePlus has promised system updates for several years (we'll see). The 7 pro main camera is on par with the pixel 2.