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Stripe pulled out of Gab because they violated their policies on adult content. This has nothing to do with conservatives or hate speech. And even if it was to

Stripe pulled out of Gab because they violated their policies on adult content. This has nothing to do with conservatives or hate speech. And even if it was to do with the hate speech, have you considered the rights of the companies providing these services? I am sure there are many Jewish people inside of Microsoft, and plenty on Azure. You would force those people to provide services to someone who actively calls for their humiliation or even death? The US has already had this discussion decades ago. Hate is not a protected class of citizen, you absolutely can push out people who deserve to be outcasts.

shivasword 6y ago
Wouldn't it be easy to destroy a competitor or startup with racist bots? Anti-competitive behavior seems to be the modus operandi of west coast capital.
itsoktocry 6y ago
>I am sure there are many Jewish people inside of Microsoft, and plenty on Azure. You would force those people to provide services to someone who actively calls for their humiliation or even death? Do no Jewish people work at Twitter? Ayatollah Khamenei still has an account. And I'd argue he has more power, influence, and potential to do damage to Jewish people than Richard Spencer.
throwawaysea 6y ago
> have you considered the rights of the companies providing these services These big payment platforms (Paypal, Stripe, Visa, Mastercard, etc.) are not really private organizations. They are public utilities providing a fundamental service required to operate our society, especially when they are as ubiquitous as the big players like Stripe. They should either only police speech to the extent the law requires, or be regulated heavily so they don't enact their own speech stifling policies. The alternative is that we outsource all our fundamental rights bit by bit to private companies who then support just speech they align with. > Hate is not a protected class of citizen, you absolutely can push out people who deserve to be outcasts. I'm not commenting on the legality. I am commenting on the fact that it violates the fundamental principles of free speech, which are more basic than our laws.

shivasword 6y ago

Wouldn't it be easy to destroy a competitor or startup with racist bots? Anti-competitive behavior seems to be the modus operandi of west coast capital.

itsoktocry 6y ago

>I am sure there are many Jewish people inside of Microsoft, and plenty on Azure. You would force those people to provide services to someone who actively calls for their humiliation or even death? Do no Jewish people work at Twitter? Ayatollah Khamenei still has an account. And I'd argue he has more power, influence, and potential to do damage to Jewish people than Richard Spencer.

throwawaysea 6y ago

> have you considered the rights of the companies providing these services These big payment platforms (Paypal, Stripe, Visa, Mastercard, etc.) are not really private organizations. They are public utilities providing a fundamental service required to operate our society, especially when they are as ubiquitous as the big players like Stripe. They should either only police speech to the extent the law requires, or be regulated heavily so they don't enact their own speech stifling policies. The alternative is that we outsource all our fundamental rights bit by bit to private companies who then support just speech they align with. > Hate is not a protected class of citizen, you absolutely can push out people who deserve to be outcasts. I'm not commenting on the legality. I am commenting on the fact that it violates the fundamental principles of free speech, which are more basic than our laws.