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> Because every editor worth its salt has an option to use vim keybindings. I'm not sure about this. For instance, I'm typing this message in a text box in my

> Because every editor worth its salt has an option to use vim keybindings. I'm not sure about this. For instance, I'm typing this message in a text box in my browser and I don't have access to vim keybindings. There are many cases where this happens (other example: google docs). I do use vim whenever I can, but I'd say the most useful keybindings that one can learn are the ones from the OS.

jbpnoy6fifty 6y ago
I believe he meant code editors. Examples of which I have used Vim bindings - google chrome - sql server management studio - jupyter notebook - jupyter lab - visual studio code - ms visual studio - dbeaver - eclipse - sublime text 2 - hackerank, iirc
justinator 6y ago
Both Chrome and FF have plugins to add vim key bindings - at least for navigating around the UI and the page. Which would support the argument to learn them. I guess your argument would be stronger if there were other $editor_of_choice key bindings for browser textboxes?
- oblio 6y ago
  There are key bindings for other editors, they're called CUA :-) I can Ctrl-C/Ctrl-X/Ctrl-V to copy/cut/paste, Ctrl-arrows to move around one word at a time, Ctrl-shift-arrows to select words, Home and End to go to the start and end of the line, etc, Ctrl-Home/Ctrl-End to move to the start and end of the text input, etc.
- vmladenov 6y ago
  On macOS a majority of UI text fields support readline bindings (^A, ^E, etc) which is really nice
  - yodsanklai 6y ago
    I have a big issue with these bindings: there is no "right" ctrl on my MBP keyboard. If you touch type, I find ^A very cumbersome to type. I find it easier to use mac os default (cmd + arrow) which also opens variants such as option + arrow, shift + option + arrow. The only readline binding I do use is ^K (not as bad as ^A because k is on the right side of the keyboard, and there is no alternative anyway).
  - jolmg 6y ago
    > support readline bindings (^A, ^E, etc.) Those are emacs bindings. Readline uses emacs bindings by default, but it can also use vi bindings. Unless you mean that it uses readline and so configuring it (i.e. ~/.inputrc) allows you to change the keybindings of macOS UI text fields. That'd be cool if it's the case.
jjav 6y ago
> I'm not sure about this. For instance, I'm typing this message in a text box in my browser and I don't have access to vim keybindings. There are many cases where this happens (other example: google docs). But both in this box and in google docs (and so many more places) you have access to the basic emacs C-* cursor movement and line manipulation bindings. One should really know both vi and emacs style basic movement bindings. Both work in many places, sometimes it's one or the other.
youerbt 6y ago
For me, writing short prose like emails or internet comments doesn't really require vim keybindings. It mostly requires keyboard for what it was designed for - inserting text. Editing source code, on the other hand, benefits much more from vim, because inserting text is only part of it.
randompwd 6y ago
> I'm typing this message in a text box in my browser and I don't have access to vim https://github.com/GhostText/GhostText https://github.com/GhostText/GhostText GhostText extension for chrome/FF and listed $plugin for $editor means you can live edit a browser textarea in $editor with text sent in real time to browser. Unfortunately, Google Suite(docs etc.) does not play nice and does not work. Worth checking out. Also for a more embedded vim experience: https://github.com/glacambre/firenvim https://github.com/glacambre/firenvim
m3at 6y ago
Here, that will let you greatly expand where you can use vim: > Sometimes, you edit text outside of Vim. These are sad times. Enter vim-anywhere! https://github.com/cknadler/vim-anywhere https://github.com/cknadler/vim-anywhere
- Onawa 6y ago
  Oh my god thank you so much for posting this!
- dbalatero 6y ago
  I'm working slowly on a Vim mode also that works in all text areas without kicking people into Vim: https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon
  - m3at 6y ago
    Very interesting! I will give it a go.
LeonB 6y ago
I read this comment 20 minutes ago and tweeted about it. I came back here to provide a link to a browser plugin for vi keybindings and found many other people had also commented with examples- only different ones. Here’s another: https://github.com/akahuku/wasavi https://github.com/akahuku/wasavi
- ybbond 6y ago
  I checked the comment before commenting, and turns out someone already mentioned wasavi. Very useful tool, too bad it does not support key mapping. I'd like to `nmap gj <ESC>` or the essential `nmap j gj`, because writing on small `<textbox/>` tends to wrap the content.
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m463 6y ago
I use macos and linux and the keybindings are compatible with emacs.
apta 6y ago
For Chrome, there's wasavi: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wasavi/dgogifpkoilgiofhhhodbodcfgomelhe?hl=en-US https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wasavi/dgogifpkoil... Firefox: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8y0q23/vim_mode_for_typing_and_not_navigating/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8y0q23/vim_mode_fo...

jbpnoy6fifty 6y ago

I believe he meant code editors. Examples of which I have used Vim bindings - google chrome - sql server management studio - jupyter notebook - jupyter lab - visual studio code - ms visual studio - dbeaver - eclipse - sublime text 2 - hackerank, iirc

justinator 6y ago

Both Chrome and FF have plugins to add vim key bindings - at least for navigating around the UI and the page. Which would support the argument to learn them. I guess your argument would be stronger if there were other $editor_of_choice key bindings for browser textboxes?

oblio 6y ago
There are key bindings for other editors, they're called CUA :-) I can Ctrl-C/Ctrl-X/Ctrl-V to copy/cut/paste, Ctrl-arrows to move around one word at a time, Ctrl-shift-arrows to select words, Home and End to go to the start and end of the line, etc, Ctrl-Home/Ctrl-End to move to the start and end of the text input, etc.
vmladenov 6y ago
On macOS a majority of UI text fields support readline bindings (^A, ^E, etc) which is really nice
- yodsanklai 6y ago
  I have a big issue with these bindings: there is no "right" ctrl on my MBP keyboard. If you touch type, I find ^A very cumbersome to type. I find it easier to use mac os default (cmd + arrow) which also opens variants such as option + arrow, shift + option + arrow. The only readline binding I do use is ^K (not as bad as ^A because k is on the right side of the keyboard, and there is no alternative anyway).
- jolmg 6y ago
  > support readline bindings (^A, ^E, etc.) Those are emacs bindings. Readline uses emacs bindings by default, but it can also use vi bindings. Unless you mean that it uses readline and so configuring it (i.e. ~/.inputrc) allows you to change the keybindings of macOS UI text fields. That'd be cool if it's the case.

jjav 6y ago

> I'm not sure about this. For instance, I'm typing this message in a text box in my browser and I don't have access to vim keybindings. There are many cases where this happens (other example: google docs). But both in this box and in google docs (and so many more places) you have access to the basic emacs C-* cursor movement and line manipulation bindings. One should really know both vi and emacs style basic movement bindings. Both work in many places, sometimes it's one or the other.

youerbt 6y ago

For me, writing short prose like emails or internet comments doesn't really require vim keybindings. It mostly requires keyboard for what it was designed for - inserting text. Editing source code, on the other hand, benefits much more from vim, because inserting text is only part of it.

randompwd 6y ago

> I'm typing this message in a text box in my browser and I don't have access to vim https://github.com/GhostText/GhostText https://github.com/GhostText/GhostText GhostText extension for chrome/FF and listed $plugin for $editor means you can live edit a browser textarea in $editor with text sent in real time to browser. Unfortunately, Google Suite(docs etc.) does not play nice and does not work. Worth checking out. Also for a more embedded vim experience: https://github.com/glacambre/firenvim https://github.com/glacambre/firenvim

m3at 6y ago

Here, that will let you greatly expand where you can use vim: > Sometimes, you edit text outside of Vim. These are sad times. Enter vim-anywhere! https://github.com/cknadler/vim-anywhere https://github.com/cknadler/vim-anywhere

Onawa 6y ago
Oh my god thank you so much for posting this!
dbalatero 6y ago
I'm working slowly on a Vim mode also that works in all text areas without kicking people into Vim: https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon https://github.com/dbalatero/VimMode.spoon
- m3at 6y ago
  Very interesting! I will give it a go.

LeonB 6y ago

I read this comment 20 minutes ago and tweeted about it. I came back here to provide a link to a browser plugin for vi keybindings and found many other people had also commented with examples- only different ones. Here’s another: https://github.com/akahuku/wasavi https://github.com/akahuku/wasavi

ybbond 6y ago
I checked the comment before commenting, and turns out someone already mentioned wasavi. Very useful tool, too bad it does not support key mapping. I'd like to `nmap gj <ESC>` or the essential `nmap j gj`, because writing on small `<textbox/>` tends to wrap the content.

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m463 6y ago

I use macos and linux and the keybindings are compatible with emacs.

apta 6y ago

For Chrome, there's wasavi: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wasavi/dgogifpkoilgiofhhhodbodcfgomelhe?hl=en-US https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wasavi/dgogifpkoil... Firefox: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8y0q23/vim_mode_for_typing_and_not_navigating/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8y0q23/vim_mode_fo...