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Pharma Companies Are So Financially Powerful They Pressure Us to Accept Papers

24 points by deafcalculus 6y ago

temporallobe 6y ago
I have never heard of this site, but after looking at their other articles, this story comes across as sensationalist and far-right leaning. In any case, it does seem to point out an fascinating and nefarious connection between politics, money, and healthcare. I did the read the entire article, but given the site’s political leanings and my admittedly sparse knowledge on most things medical, it’s difficult for me to determine if there is any merit to it. If the article’s assertion is true, it’s extremely disturbing to say the least, as I can only conclude that we no longer have evidence-based science, and instead are left with world-dominating corporations that place profits over human lives, even in a pandemic. How do we non-medical citizens of earth navigate this labyrinth?
- thu2111 6y ago
  The article is just a re-hash of the Surgisphere scandal, which is widely documented in many other outlets and newspapers. The quote it starts with is on a video on YouTube, you can go watch it yourself. I think it's bunk personally: it's a second hand account of something the head of the Lancet supposedly said, but if he really said it, he should be ashamed. He was basically saying pharma firms do such perfect, ideal science that he can't find any reason to reject their papers. Surely that's a good thing. At any rate, it's a distraction. Surgisphere isn't a big pharma firm but rather a front company, for who is unknown. The Lancet apparently gets worked up about legit pharma companies submitting valid papers, but lets through nonsensical fraudulent papers when they align with the editor's preferred findings. That says nothing good about the Lancet.
brassmarlin 6y ago
Looked like an interesting article... at first. That site seems super sketchy
- WarOnPrivacy 6y ago
  That's probably a sound analysis. Trying to tweet the link gets "We can't complete this request because this link has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially harmful." I'm reasonably ashamed I got as far as tweeting it. I'm going to rethink my life.
kanobo 6y ago
This site is suspicious AF. All the sites in their 'news network' just have headlines describing Fauci as a mass murderer with word salad articles.
icosa 6y ago
Warning signs about the trustworthiness of this site's reporting: - Top banner says "News that impacts your health that other sites may censor!" -- a common claim of pseudoscience / conspiracy theory sites - The bottom banners are anti-vaccine FUD, like a preposterous claim that "all vaccines cause harm" - The "Peace with God" site link in the top banner leads to a site with COVID and modern-medicine-is-Satanic conspiracy theories - When they attribute claims to specific people, they either link to Wikipedia pages of the people (proving the person exists, but not proving they said what the article claims), or to other conspiracy sites or videos.

24 points by deafcalculus 6y ago

I have never heard of this site, but after looking at their other articles, this story comes across as sensationalist and far-right leaning. In any case, it does seem to point out an fascinating and nefarious connection between politics, money, and healthcare. I did the read the entire article, but given the site’s political leanings and my admittedly sparse knowledge on most things medical, it’s difficult for me to determine if there is any merit to it. If the article’s assertion is true, it’s extremely disturbing to say the least, as I can only conclude that we no longer have evidence-based science, and instead are left with world-dominating corporations that place profits over human lives, even in a pandemic. How do we non-medical citizens of earth navigate this labyrinth?

thu2111 6y ago
The article is just a re-hash of the Surgisphere scandal, which is widely documented in many other outlets and newspapers. The quote it starts with is on a video on YouTube, you can go watch it yourself. I think it's bunk personally: it's a second hand account of something the head of the Lancet supposedly said, but if he really said it, he should be ashamed. He was basically saying pharma firms do such perfect, ideal science that he can't find any reason to reject their papers. Surely that's a good thing. At any rate, it's a distraction. Surgisphere isn't a big pharma firm but rather a front company, for who is unknown. The Lancet apparently gets worked up about legit pharma companies submitting valid papers, but lets through nonsensical fraudulent papers when they align with the editor's preferred findings. That says nothing good about the Lancet.

brassmarlin 6y ago

Looked like an interesting article... at first. That site seems super sketchy

WarOnPrivacy 6y ago
That's probably a sound analysis. Trying to tweet the link gets "We can't complete this request because this link has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially harmful." I'm reasonably ashamed I got as far as tweeting it. I'm going to rethink my life.

kanobo 6y ago

This site is suspicious AF. All the sites in their 'news network' just have headlines describing Fauci as a mass murderer with word salad articles.

icosa 6y ago

Warning signs about the trustworthiness of this site's reporting: - Top banner says "News that impacts your health that other sites may censor!" -- a common claim of pseudoscience / conspiracy theory sites - The bottom banners are anti-vaccine FUD, like a preposterous claim that "all vaccines cause harm" - The "Peace with God" site link in the top banner leads to a site with COVID and modern-medicine-is-Satanic conspiracy theories - When they attribute claims to specific people, they either link to Wikipedia pages of the people (proving the person exists, but not proving they said what the article claims), or to other conspiracy sites or videos.