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Please create your socialist utopia and make it work. Why change US and other successful countries?

• pnutjam 6y ago
  Never claimed I could or wanted to, just pointing out that it's disingenuous to claim these systems fail in a vacuum because they are inherently flawed.
  • negamax 6y ago
    Or maybe they do fail because they are flawed. And foreign interest weakening them is just a story. People suffer under socialism. Maybe you should liver under a socialist regime before preaching them.
    • pnutjam 6y ago
      Yes, people suffer under embargo. We'll never know how much is scary socialism and how much is pile on effect.
      • negamax 6y ago
        I am happy to have this debate in a more fluid channel and with a wider group. May be that's the best way to understand this. HN leaks into wider culture and people here do have voice and impact. So definitely arrange for a discussion for wider participation if you can.