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Pod Save America interviews Kara Swisher at the end of the most recent episode [1] And at the very end of that they discuss TikTok and China. Swisher is no fan
by bredren 6y ago
Pod Save America interviews Kara Swisher at the end of the most recent episode [1] And at the very end of that they discuss TikTok and China.
Swisher is no fan of Facebook, but she also sort of casually describes China as have different “values” than the United States with the implication that the values are not as good and that it is not good for a Chinese-owned TikTok to have so much data on US citizens.
It struck me because the comment went unchallenged by the host. I have my own biases against Chinese “values” due to what I’ve seen in my security work and also from what’s happening with the Uighurs in China now.
Is there contemporary moral superiority of the United States over China? I think most Americans would say yes without a lot of detailed reasons why.
I’d compare it to whether Craigslist has moral Superiority over eBay. Seems possibly obvious but the truth is more nuanced.
However, all historical context is set aside to make this statement. United States’ current and past moral failings are not really held up for discussion.
[1] https://podcast.app/youve-got-no-mail-e109788978/?utm_source=ios&utm_medium=share https://podcast.app/youve-got-no-mail-e109788978/?utm_source...
- mpalmer 6y agoThis fixation on "US moral failings" as a stopping point for the conversation is not especially useful. Both countries have done and are doing great things. Both countries have done and are doing reprehensible things, and they deny it as best they can. One country codifies individual liberty as a guiding principle (however imperfectly fulfilled). The other eschews liberty as a distraction from the national interest, indeed it views the spread of democratic government as a threat. US values do not require the world to become less free. Can one say the same of China?