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springboot? it cannot get easier than this: https://start.spring.io/ https://start.spring.io/ I personally choose Java/SpringBoot, it has a steep learning curv

by evnix 6y ago

springboot? it cannot get easier than this: https://start.spring.io/ https://start.spring.io/ I personally choose Java/SpringBoot, it has a steep learning curve, but has strong typing, runs as fast as most C++ code out there, plus you can do async. and if you want something fast but that is as easy as Rails and runs on Java/Groovy/JVM, use Grails.

_AzMoo 6y ago
Great news. Django 3.1 was released today which includes support for async views. The ORM is still not async, but it's a big step.
matthewowen 6y ago
You mean "static" typing. Ruby is strongly typed, it just isn't statically typed.
bdcravens 6y ago
> if you want something fast but that is as easy as Rails and runs on Java/Groovy/JVM, use Grails Is there a reason you'd use Grails over Rails on jRuby?
- nurettin 6y ago
  Haven't used grails, but back in 2012, JRuby used to generate so many in-memory classes, the class space would run out and we didn't really have a garbage collector for that. It came a few years later. Things might be better with JRuby 9000 and java 1.8+ these days. I presume Grails didn't suffer such problems. Note: I see that torquebox was discontinued. It was a simple way of getting your rails project to work with JBoss and had many nice utilities like infinispan and stomp. Good old days.
treis 6y ago
>springboot? it cannot get easier than this: https://start.spring.io/ https://start.spring.io/ That doesn't seem easy at all. Immediately I am presented with 5 choices and then a list of 50 things that I might want to add to my application. Some of those 50 choices seem to be mutually exclusive and I don't have any way of knowing which I might want or why. Rails? Just rails new myapp.
- ben940830298432 6y ago
  If you want something more built out from the start you could use https://www.jhipster.tech https://www.jhipster.tech
- cogman10 6y ago
  To be clear, your choices are: Build system, Language, Spring version, Java packaging, Java version The rest is naming. That is not complex to me. As for the dependency options... well, they are dependency options. I'm sure you have no problem with adding gems to a rails project, even though there are thousands of them that may be mutually exclusive! A non-ruby dev might not know which gem they want and would have no way of knowing what they want or why! rails new myapp is exactly the same as doing this with no dependencies.

by evnix 6y ago

_AzMoo 6y ago

Great news. Django 3.1 was released today which includes support for async views. The ORM is still not async, but it's a big step.

matthewowen 6y ago

You mean "static" typing. Ruby is strongly typed, it just isn't statically typed.

bdcravens 6y ago

> if you want something fast but that is as easy as Rails and runs on Java/Groovy/JVM, use Grails Is there a reason you'd use Grails over Rails on jRuby?

nurettin 6y ago
Haven't used grails, but back in 2012, JRuby used to generate so many in-memory classes, the class space would run out and we didn't really have a garbage collector for that. It came a few years later. Things might be better with JRuby 9000 and java 1.8+ these days. I presume Grails didn't suffer such problems. Note: I see that torquebox was discontinued. It was a simple way of getting your rails project to work with JBoss and had many nice utilities like infinispan and stomp. Good old days.

treis 6y ago

>springboot? it cannot get easier than this: https://start.spring.io/ https://start.spring.io/ That doesn't seem easy at all. Immediately I am presented with 5 choices and then a list of 50 things that I might want to add to my application. Some of those 50 choices seem to be mutually exclusive and I don't have any way of knowing which I might want or why. Rails? Just rails new myapp.

ben940830298432 6y ago
If you want something more built out from the start you could use https://www.jhipster.tech https://www.jhipster.tech
cogman10 6y ago
To be clear, your choices are: Build system, Language, Spring version, Java packaging, Java version The rest is naming. That is not complex to me. As for the dependency options... well, they are dependency options. I'm sure you have no problem with adding gems to a rails project, even though there are thousands of them that may be mutually exclusive! A non-ruby dev might not know which gem they want and would have no way of knowing what they want or why! rails new myapp is exactly the same as doing this with no dependencies.