Yeah, thanks. I know about those as well, although I haven't tried them except for a quick trial. I could see them as complementary to other exercise, but I don

Yeah, thanks. I know about those as well, although I haven't tried them except for a quick trial. I could see them as complementary to other exercise, but I don't think I could personally find the focus or motivation to do them as a primary thing. The kind of aikido I did was actually fairly physical. While it's no MMA, and even something like wrestling or judo are intense in a pretty different way, it was both physically and mentally more than just a health workout for me. For me tai chi or qi gong don't fit the same slot, but for some others they might of course be the thing. I just wanted to mention the martial arts thing because I found it to be good for general fitness and mental well-being. Venues and instructors, and their styles, vary a lot though, so YMMV.