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Sigh, more Zenz quotes and his "credible" estimates. >A few days later, the prisoners were loaded onto minibuses and sent away to an unknown location. It woul

Sigh, more Zenz quotes and his "credible" estimates. >A few days later, the prisoners were loaded onto minibuses and sent away to an unknown location. It would be trivially easy to strip out the meta data and geo-locate his location to match buildings across to see if it's an actual detention site. But naw, unknown location and unverifiable documents. The sad thing is the psyops aren't very good, the audience is just that stupid. Edit: just to clarify, the camps exist. But any article that requires Zenz for substantiation should be by default discredited. The bar for ascertaining the scope of the camps is not difficult, just geospatially catalogue all 1,200 camps Zenz claims to exist. US + allies clearly have the resources and Trump already leaked USA224 capabilities. The fact that MSM has to repeatedly use Zenz commentary is incredibly telling. Also ignore millions of social media posts from XJ showing facts on the ground. At least they talked to Darren Byler this time.

Arbalest 6y ago
The issue with the USA224 for circulation of media in the public (call it propaganda or propaganda busting, not relevant) is that it states pretty clearly "As the Military of the United States, we have a problem with you, China". That's getting pretty close to a declaration of war. Edit: OK strictly it is not operated directly by the military, but by an intelligence organisation. The line here is a bit blurry though, as the imagery is clearly used for military purposes.
- dirtyid 6y ago
  I was just being cute with USA224. The context is Zenz claims there are ~1,200 facilities to account for 1-3M detentions (not concurrent), but the only credit analysis by ASPI could only identify 180. ASPI is another very pro US, AU based think tank with funding from US MIC. We're _3+ years_ into this thing and it seems like western interests have zero incentive to have a proper accounting of the situation, which is getting unalterably suspicious. Instead consistently rely on atrocity porn from interviewees who change testimonies and quotes from Zenz or other biased reporting. i.e ASPI also did study on Uyghur for sale, but omits context that the lowest compensation they could find basically extrapolates to entry level wage at Foxconn and significantly higher than backwater prefectures (Hotan) prisoners are from. If the "somewhere in between" narrative between mass genocide and just re-education / vocational training camps is: less than 0.1% of China is being forcefully indoctrinated for lower middle class wages, then the entire western muh "human rights" campaign collapses. So here's more Zenz, non-compelling testimony, previously debunked organ harvesting / holocaust claims so susceptible western audiences can project their own Godwin law delusions onto. Also XJ is a blackbox, except the social media flowing out of it that we won't report on. Otherwise what's happening in XJ is just boring cultural genocide with more cameras and spread sheets, which to be blunt, is geopolitically unactionable.

Arbalest 6y ago

The issue with the USA224 for circulation of media in the public (call it propaganda or propaganda busting, not relevant) is that it states pretty clearly "As the Military of the United States, we have a problem with you, China". That's getting pretty close to a declaration of war. Edit: OK strictly it is not operated directly by the military, but by an intelligence organisation. The line here is a bit blurry though, as the imagery is clearly used for military purposes.

dirtyid 6y ago
I was just being cute with USA224. The context is Zenz claims there are ~1,200 facilities to account for 1-3M detentions (not concurrent), but the only credit analysis by ASPI could only identify 180. ASPI is another very pro US, AU based think tank with funding from US MIC. We're _3+ years_ into this thing and it seems like western interests have zero incentive to have a proper accounting of the situation, which is getting unalterably suspicious. Instead consistently rely on atrocity porn from interviewees who change testimonies and quotes from Zenz or other biased reporting. i.e ASPI also did study on Uyghur for sale, but omits context that the lowest compensation they could find basically extrapolates to entry level wage at Foxconn and significantly higher than backwater prefectures (Hotan) prisoners are from. If the "somewhere in between" narrative between mass genocide and just re-education / vocational training camps is: less than 0.1% of China is being forcefully indoctrinated for lower middle class wages, then the entire western muh "human rights" campaign collapses. So here's more Zenz, non-compelling testimony, previously debunked organ harvesting / holocaust claims so susceptible western audiences can project their own Godwin law delusions onto. Also XJ is a blackbox, except the social media flowing out of it that we won't report on. Otherwise what's happening in XJ is just boring cultural genocide with more cameras and spread sheets, which to be blunt, is geopolitically unactionable.