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The news is way worse than that. A couple notable things they mostly buried just this past week: The George Floyd bodycam video leaked out, destroying the BLM

by burfog 6y ago

The news is way worse than that. A couple notable things they mostly buried just this past week: The George Floyd bodycam video leaked out, destroying the BLM narrative (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24046940 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24046940 for DailyMail). ABC doesn't cover it. CBS and NBC edit out "Stop resisting". Youtube suppresses it from trending. NBC even had privately seen the bodycam video a month prior, leaving them no excuse for stoking violence across the country. We finally got evidence (both flight logs and a victim statement) that a former US president was at Epstein's island. Both of those are far more important to Americans than a big explosion in a far off city.

compscistd 6y ago
This is less an issue of biased narrative vs the truth than _your_ values vs BLM values. To BLM, nothing excuses someone who is supposed to protect and serve putting their weight onto someone's neck for nearly ten minutes. Is a stained toxicology report and non-compliance permission to kill? The BLM "narrative" assumes the answer is no. The right-wing "narrative" assumes the answer is yes. This is less a question of reporting and more a question of what is justified. Thus, the BLM narrative that police violence is excessive is still compelling if you subscribe to the belief that someone placing their knee and weight on a detained person's neck for 8 minutes is excessive, regardless of other circumstances. Ask yourself if you think the situation could have been resolved differently, without loss of life. If outcome isn't important to you because of a toxicology report, mannerisms, circumstances of arrest, other reason to deny life... then a certain unorganized group of people would like to remind you and many others like you that _black lives matter_. But alas, to say the leaked body cam footage "destroys the BLM narrative" implies you won't care about reporting at all if you resort to regurgitating clickbait-language.
- burfog 6y ago
  There were no neck injuries (see the autopsy report) and thus the "putting their weight" concept is clearly an exaggeration. Nothing involving the neck was involved in the death. It is a gross mischaracterization of the right that "the answer is yes". There doesn't exist any way to arrest a non-compliant criminal without somebody getting all upset about it. Ultimately, some degree of violence will be required. Leaving criminals to run free is how you get a failed state, and then gangs create their own not-so-nice justice system. Hiding the video in order to create needless racial strife was just plain evil. Numerous additional people have died as a result.

by burfog 6y ago

compscistd 6y ago

This is less an issue of biased narrative vs the truth than _your_ values vs BLM values. To BLM, nothing excuses someone who is supposed to protect and serve putting their weight onto someone's neck for nearly ten minutes. Is a stained toxicology report and non-compliance permission to kill? The BLM "narrative" assumes the answer is no. The right-wing "narrative" assumes the answer is yes. This is less a question of reporting and more a question of what is justified. Thus, the BLM narrative that police violence is excessive is still compelling if you subscribe to the belief that someone placing their knee and weight on a detained person's neck for 8 minutes is excessive, regardless of other circumstances. Ask yourself if you think the situation could have been resolved differently, without loss of life. If outcome isn't important to you because of a toxicology report, mannerisms, circumstances of arrest, other reason to deny life... then a certain unorganized group of people would like to remind you and many others like you that _black lives matter_. But alas, to say the leaked body cam footage "destroys the BLM narrative" implies you won't care about reporting at all if you resort to regurgitating clickbait-language.

burfog 6y ago
There were no neck injuries (see the autopsy report) and thus the "putting their weight" concept is clearly an exaggeration. Nothing involving the neck was involved in the death. It is a gross mischaracterization of the right that "the answer is yes". There doesn't exist any way to arrest a non-compliant criminal without somebody getting all upset about it. Ultimately, some degree of violence will be required. Leaving criminals to run free is how you get a failed state, and then gangs create their own not-so-nice justice system. Hiding the video in order to create needless racial strife was just plain evil. Numerous additional people have died as a result.