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It's buried when I go to the Guardians homepage. Might be localised though. This is real news. I expect it to be easy to see. Not a doomscrolling meaningless r

It's buried when I go to the Guardians homepage. Might be localised though. This is real news. I expect it to be easy to see. Not a doomscrolling meaningless repeat of the C19 countdown for the day.

netsharc 6y ago
See, again with the expectations. If every big event requires a link to in-depth analysis on the front page of a news site, they'd need to have a small font size and a 16K monitor... And you'd complain that it's not in the corner you looked.
- aaron695 6y ago
  If you think this shouldn't be the clear headline, then I guess we consider news to be different things. I'll go back to reading next in my feed how George R R Martin is racist because he mispronounced someones name (Not an article in the Guardian, and the Guardian's coverage is exceptional for Beirut compared to others like CNN or Fox) [edit] Does the media not care about the largest peacetime explosion in a capital city because they are Arabs? What exactly is bigger than this today?
  - netsharc 6y ago
    Reply to your edit: who's "media" here? The Guardian has it front and center and red (red means live news event). If your "media" falls below your expectations, then stop reading them. But stop saying all media is shit because you read shit news sites. IMO you're part of this problem of people saying all media is illegitimate because some of it is shit...
  - burfog 6y ago
    The news is way worse than that. A couple notable things they mostly buried just this past week: The George Floyd bodycam video leaked out, destroying the BLM narrative (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24046940 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24046940 for DailyMail). ABC doesn't cover it. CBS and NBC edit out "Stop resisting". Youtube suppresses it from trending. NBC even had privately seen the bodycam video a month prior, leaving them no excuse for stoking violence across the country. We finally got evidence (both flight logs and a victim statement) that a former US president was at Epstein's island. Both of those are far more important to Americans than a big explosion in a far off city.
    - compscistd 6y ago
      This is less an issue of biased narrative vs the truth than _your_ values vs BLM values. To BLM, nothing excuses someone who is supposed to protect and serve putting their weight onto someone's neck for nearly ten minutes. Is a stained toxicology report and non-compliance permission to kill? The BLM "narrative" assumes the answer is no. The right-wing "narrative" assumes the answer is yes. This is less a question of reporting and more a question of what is justified. Thus, the BLM narrative that police violence is excessive is still compelling if you subscribe to the belief that someone placing their knee and weight on a detained person's neck for 8 minutes is excessive, regardless of other circumstances. Ask yourself if you think the situation could have been resolved differently, without loss of life. If outcome isn't important to you because of a toxicology report, mannerisms, circumstances of arrest, other reason to deny life... then a certain unorganized group of people would like to remind you and many others like you that _black lives matter_. But alas, to say the leaked body cam footage "destroys the BLM narrative" implies you won't care about reporting at all if you resort to regurgitating clickbait-language.
      - burfog 6y ago
        There were no neck injuries (see the autopsy report) and thus the "putting their weight" concept is clearly an exaggeration. Nothing involving the neck was involved in the death. It is a gross mischaracterization of the right that "the answer is yes". There doesn't exist any way to arrest a non-compliant criminal without somebody getting all upset about it. Ultimately, some degree of violence will be required. Leaving criminals to run free is how you get a failed state, and then gangs create their own not-so-nice justice system. Hiding the video in order to create needless racial strife was just plain evil. Numerous additional people have died as a result.
unethical_ban 6y ago
Is it? A fireworks explosion in Lebanon is more important to me than whether Congress gets unemployment support fixed, or how my city is doing with the pandemic? Or whether a tropical storm is flooding NYC?

It's buried when I go to the Guardians homepage. Might be localised though. This is real news. I expect it to be easy to see. Not a doomscrolling meaningless repeat of the C19 countdown for the day.

netsharc 6y ago

See, again with the expectations. If every big event requires a link to in-depth analysis on the front page of a news site, they'd need to have a small font size and a 16K monitor... And you'd complain that it's not in the corner you looked.

aaron695 6y ago
If you think this shouldn't be the clear headline, then I guess we consider news to be different things. I'll go back to reading next in my feed how George R R Martin is racist because he mispronounced someones name (Not an article in the Guardian, and the Guardian's coverage is exceptional for Beirut compared to others like CNN or Fox) [edit] Does the media not care about the largest peacetime explosion in a capital city because they are Arabs? What exactly is bigger than this today?
- netsharc 6y ago
  Reply to your edit: who's "media" here? The Guardian has it front and center and red (red means live news event). If your "media" falls below your expectations, then stop reading them. But stop saying all media is shit because you read shit news sites. IMO you're part of this problem of people saying all media is illegitimate because some of it is shit...
- burfog 6y ago
  The news is way worse than that. A couple notable things they mostly buried just this past week: The George Floyd bodycam video leaked out, destroying the BLM narrative (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24046940 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24046940 for DailyMail). ABC doesn't cover it. CBS and NBC edit out "Stop resisting". Youtube suppresses it from trending. NBC even had privately seen the bodycam video a month prior, leaving them no excuse for stoking violence across the country. We finally got evidence (both flight logs and a victim statement) that a former US president was at Epstein's island. Both of those are far more important to Americans than a big explosion in a far off city.
  - compscistd 6y ago
    This is less an issue of biased narrative vs the truth than _your_ values vs BLM values. To BLM, nothing excuses someone who is supposed to protect and serve putting their weight onto someone's neck for nearly ten minutes. Is a stained toxicology report and non-compliance permission to kill? The BLM "narrative" assumes the answer is no. The right-wing "narrative" assumes the answer is yes. This is less a question of reporting and more a question of what is justified. Thus, the BLM narrative that police violence is excessive is still compelling if you subscribe to the belief that someone placing their knee and weight on a detained person's neck for 8 minutes is excessive, regardless of other circumstances. Ask yourself if you think the situation could have been resolved differently, without loss of life. If outcome isn't important to you because of a toxicology report, mannerisms, circumstances of arrest, other reason to deny life... then a certain unorganized group of people would like to remind you and many others like you that _black lives matter_. But alas, to say the leaked body cam footage "destroys the BLM narrative" implies you won't care about reporting at all if you resort to regurgitating clickbait-language.
    - burfog 6y ago
      There were no neck injuries (see the autopsy report) and thus the "putting their weight" concept is clearly an exaggeration. Nothing involving the neck was involved in the death. It is a gross mischaracterization of the right that "the answer is yes". There doesn't exist any way to arrest a non-compliant criminal without somebody getting all upset about it. Ultimately, some degree of violence will be required. Leaving criminals to run free is how you get a failed state, and then gangs create their own not-so-nice justice system. Hiding the video in order to create needless racial strife was just plain evil. Numerous additional people have died as a result.

unethical_ban 6y ago

Is it? A fireworks explosion in Lebanon is more important to me than whether Congress gets unemployment support fixed, or how my city is doing with the pandemic? Or whether a tropical storm is flooding NYC?