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Yeah, you're right that simple tabs can also be implemented using css, but I still disagree. Another example: how about a simple search on a table [1]. In this

by ly 6y ago

Yeah, you're right that simple tabs can also be implemented using css, but I still disagree. Another example: how about a simple search on a table [1]. In this case the search is instant. Without JS you would have to have a submit button and wait for the request. Even if you also added a button the JS version it would still feel more responsive, as again, you're not waiting for the request. [1] https://www.w3schools.com/howto/tryit.asp?filename=tryhow_js_filter_table https://www.w3schools.com/howto/tryit.asp?filename=tryhow_js...

lelandbatey 6y ago
I'm not sure I've ever seen a case where I have a data set that's small enough to be quickly searchable (and quickly re-renderable) using client-side JS but big enough that I need dedicated and app-like sort, search, or query functionality. And where such a set of data to exist, that data set would almost certainly be _growing_ with time, meaning even if it started out as something where I can have snappy JS search, as time passes the JS search grows heavier and slower through time. Additionally, when it comes to client-side spreadsheets I have seen far more terrible half client-side, half server-side implementations (being only able to sort within a page, instead of across all pages of results). If I had to choose one, I'd choose a world were all we had were server side spreadsheets.
- ly 6y ago
  I’ve implemented front-end (fuzzy) search in multiple projects over the years. When the dataset is known to be small enough it’s great. I have also seen the horrible half/half implementations you mention where it should have just been implemented on the server side, and I totally agree with you there. However it was just an example to show that a unsubstantiated blanket statement like “responsiveness never” is just wrong. I’m not saying doing search in JS is always (or even often) better, but it can be sometimes if done well.

by ly 6y ago

lelandbatey 6y ago

I'm not sure I've ever seen a case where I have a data set that's small enough to be quickly searchable (and quickly re-renderable) using client-side JS but big enough that I need dedicated and app-like sort, search, or query functionality. And where such a set of data to exist, that data set would almost certainly be _growing_ with time, meaning even if it started out as something where I can have snappy JS search, as time passes the JS search grows heavier and slower through time. Additionally, when it comes to client-side spreadsheets I have seen far more terrible half client-side, half server-side implementations (being only able to sort within a page, instead of across all pages of results). If I had to choose one, I'd choose a world were all we had were server side spreadsheets.

ly 6y ago
I’ve implemented front-end (fuzzy) search in multiple projects over the years. When the dataset is known to be small enough it’s great. I have also seen the horrible half/half implementations you mention where it should have just been implemented on the server side, and I totally agree with you there. However it was just an example to show that a unsubstantiated blanket statement like “responsiveness never” is just wrong. I’m not saying doing search in JS is always (or even often) better, but it can be sometimes if done well.