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You are arguing that a $600+ phone for yourself and all your friends is more "readily available to consumers" than a $0 downloadable open source open standard s
by Dahoon 6y ago
You are arguing that a $600+ phone for yourself and all your friends is more "readily available to consumers" than a $0 downloadable open source open standard software with multiple clients available? Two-thirds of the world population live on less than $10 a day. You are living in quite the bubble. XMPP is way more "readily available to consumers" on world average.
- simonh 6y agoI’m not sure I’m understanding you. Are you arguing that more ordinary consumers have and are using XMPP than are using iPhones, or are you arguing that in theory they could and therefore.... something. I’m just wondering what proportion of those people on $10 a day are happy XMPP users. There’s a serious point here. Highly technical, bare bones infrastructure componentry like this isn’t actually free to use. It requires that the user have an extensive set of incredibly valuable skills that are very expensive to acquire. In fact I’d argue the skills needed to understand and effectively use a solution like this from scratch, including setting up and running a server, cost a heck of a lot more than $600. That’s aside from the opportunity cost of learning all that, and setting up and running a server.
- sascha_sl 6y agoMaybe in direct comparison to iMessage and considering only economic factors of "availability". Ease of use and how easily your contacts adapt a messenger are far more important factors to your average consumer. If you really want to argue economics, it's hard to argue with any of the other free messengers (Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, etc.) over XMPP.