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I don't assume, I just explain what I do and what I see most commonly done. I don't allow racism and that's not censorship, it's my personal, private choice and

by zaarn 6y ago

I don't assume, I just explain what I do and what I see most commonly done. I don't allow racism and that's not censorship, it's my personal, private choice and my users agree with it (if they don't they are free to take their data off my server and go elsewhere with no interference on my part)

kortilla 6y ago
That is quite literally censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship You seem to be confused and think that censorship has to come from government or some other orgs? You’re suppressing political topics (e.g. all of migration policy is racist by definition), which lands squarely in the censorship camp. It’s not any less censorship if your users agree with it.
- zaarn 6y ago
  Well, the thing is that I'm not forcing you to use my instance. If I tried to prevent you from saying specific things on all instances then I would call it censorship. But as long as you can go elsewhere for your speech, it's not censorship, it's free speech, just like it's a free market of ideas. You seem to be confused and think that free speech means everyone has to listen to your speech, otherwise it is censorship. Before the internet and connectivity, people were perfectly free to stand on a soapbox and say their speech, just as everyone around them as free to ignore them, ostracize them or throw rocks at them. Censorship requires things to be surpressed or prohibited but I alone on my mastodon instance cannot prohibit or surpress these things on my own. I can ban them on my instance but people can go elsewhere, so the speech is neither prohibited nor surpressed, just not welcome in this place. Censorship largely, IMO, can only be done by the government or large corporations like Facebook. It is censorship when speech is forbidden that has no other place to go. On the other hand, racism and hatespeech should be censored, they're not welcome and this "sunlight is the best desinfectant" bs people like to repeat like it's a bible quote doesn't help.

by zaarn 6y ago

kortilla 6y ago

That is quite literally censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship You seem to be confused and think that censorship has to come from government or some other orgs? You’re suppressing political topics (e.g. all of migration policy is racist by definition), which lands squarely in the censorship camp. It’s not any less censorship if your users agree with it.

zaarn 6y ago
Well, the thing is that I'm not forcing you to use my instance. If I tried to prevent you from saying specific things on all instances then I would call it censorship. But as long as you can go elsewhere for your speech, it's not censorship, it's free speech, just like it's a free market of ideas. You seem to be confused and think that free speech means everyone has to listen to your speech, otherwise it is censorship. Before the internet and connectivity, people were perfectly free to stand on a soapbox and say their speech, just as everyone around them as free to ignore them, ostracize them or throw rocks at them. Censorship requires things to be surpressed or prohibited but I alone on my mastodon instance cannot prohibit or surpress these things on my own. I can ban them on my instance but people can go elsewhere, so the speech is neither prohibited nor surpressed, just not welcome in this place. Censorship largely, IMO, can only be done by the government or large corporations like Facebook. It is censorship when speech is forbidden that has no other place to go. On the other hand, racism and hatespeech should be censored, they're not welcome and this "sunlight is the best desinfectant" bs people like to repeat like it's a bible quote doesn't help.