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> What kind of magic fairy dust SSDs are they using I don't know about magic fairy dust, but Apple's SSDs are known to be phenomenally fast in benchmarks. $300

by ebg13 6y ago

> What kind of magic fairy dust SSDs are they using I don't know about magic fairy dust, but Apple's SSDs are known to be phenomenally fast in benchmarks. $300/TB is compared to $200/TB aftermarket for a high end NVMe SSD. Is that markup? Yes, but it's not 300%.

skohan 6y ago
But it’s intel so presumably you could beat it on an AMD with PCIE gen 4 right?
- berbec 6y ago
  Not presumably, definately, at least in benchmarks. Max transfer rates on a current model gen4 ssd can reach upwards of 5GB/second, but top-end gen3 model is faster at other things. The Samsung 970 pro is still the fastest nvme consumer disk in almost all categories, besides max transfer rate, due to its usage of 100% mlc, instead of qlc & mlc cache.
lm28469 6y ago
When SSDs were the hot new thing yeah, apple had top end SSDs compared to the competition, but today... https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-SSD-AP1024-7171-Benchmarked.458652.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-SSD-AP1024-7171-Benchmar...
tmpz22 6y ago
Apple uses a file system especially designed for fast file transfer speeds, and guess what benchmarks they're using to declare their SSDs superior? With newer M.2 drives like the 970 EVO or Sabrent Rocket Apple has no valid excuse for charging so damn much for storage...
- ebg13 6y ago
  > With newer M.2 drives like the 970 EVO or Sabrent Rocket Apple has no valid excuse for charging so damn much for storage... Can you show any other major manufacturer that includes a competitive internal drive for significantly less? Because otherwise you're comparing very different things. Dell also upcharges $300 for a 1TB NVMe SSD. "If I buy it separately and install it myself" isn't a valid market comparison. If you want to do that, then do it.
  - tmpz22 6y ago
    https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-m-2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-list/ https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-m-2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-li... Many (most?) modern laptops seem to have an m.2 expansion slot. You could for a fraction of the price put in a 2TB SSD.

by ebg13 6y ago

skohan 6y ago

But it’s intel so presumably you could beat it on an AMD with PCIE gen 4 right?

berbec 6y ago
Not presumably, definately, at least in benchmarks. Max transfer rates on a current model gen4 ssd can reach upwards of 5GB/second, but top-end gen3 model is faster at other things. The Samsung 970 pro is still the fastest nvme consumer disk in almost all categories, besides max transfer rate, due to its usage of 100% mlc, instead of qlc & mlc cache.

lm28469 6y ago

When SSDs were the hot new thing yeah, apple had top end SSDs compared to the competition, but today... https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-SSD-AP1024-7171-Benchmarked.458652.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-SSD-AP1024-7171-Benchmar...

tmpz22 6y ago

Apple uses a file system especially designed for fast file transfer speeds, and guess what benchmarks they're using to declare their SSDs superior? With newer M.2 drives like the 970 EVO or Sabrent Rocket Apple has no valid excuse for charging so damn much for storage...

ebg13 6y ago
> With newer M.2 drives like the 970 EVO or Sabrent Rocket Apple has no valid excuse for charging so damn much for storage... Can you show any other major manufacturer that includes a competitive internal drive for significantly less? Because otherwise you're comparing very different things. Dell also upcharges $300 for a 1TB NVMe SSD. "If I buy it separately and install it myself" isn't a valid market comparison. If you want to do that, then do it.
- tmpz22 6y ago
  https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-m-2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-list/ https://laptopmedia.com/laptop-m-2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-li... Many (most?) modern laptops seem to have an m.2 expansion slot. You could for a fraction of the price put in a 2TB SSD.