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Gone Phishing

33 points by danso 6y ago

mod 6y ago
Is there a special way these are prosecuted? How can a Nigerian national face charges in the US for crimes he committed in Nigeria? (Per the article he was in other countries as well, but presumably he could be prosecuted even if he wasn't)
- 55555 6y ago
  If you break American laws or defraud Americans you can be charged in the US. The US nabs foreign cartel members in foreign countries by arranging conspiracies where they do nothing but agree to sell drugs knowing they are intended to end up on US soil.
  - grawprog 6y ago
    They can even put bounties on world leaders. https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Americas/2020/0327/Why-US-placed-a-15-million-bounty-on-Venezuela-s-Maduro https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Americas/...
- Kalium 6y ago
  > How can a Nigerian national face charges in the US for crimes he committed in Nigeria? Defrauding a company across international borders potentially involves committing crimes in multiple countries. The country the defrauded is in, the country the fraudster is in, and possibly several others.
55555 6y ago
I hate how they paint this stuff as technologically impressive. Also... > Their supporters contend they’re simply taking from the haves and giving to the have-nots, a digital form of reparations for the sins of slavery... lol these are Nigerian youths. What does (presumably American) slavery have to do with them?
- esrauch 6y ago
  Well, many slaves themselves were men forcibly taken from Africa; more from Ghana region but also from Nigeria.
- smnrchrds 6y ago
  > lol these are Nigerian youths. What does (presumably American) slavery have to do with them? I am going to answer this question on its own, without any relation to the rest of your comment or the article. It has something to do with them, because (1) Nigeria was affected by Atlantic slave trade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slave_market_regions_and_participation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slave_mar... And (2) the trauma and the effects of slavery don't just affect those enslaved, but also those left behind. If outer space aliens come to Earth and take half of population with them to their planet, I expect the city not to get back on its feet for a long long time, if ever.
donohoe 6y ago
Its a bit crazy that as a scammer they talked their way onto the cover of Forbes Africa.
- solstice 6y ago
  ... and what a cover it is, too.
- AstralStorm 6y ago
  Not particularly unexpected, with a good fake cover story that was not thoroughly checked, he looked like an investor, one who got rich on some lucky risky scheme.
microtherion 6y ago
As an aside, the range of services offered by that Internet cafe in Lagos looks quite impressive.
- Gys 6y ago
  Like that '2 minute passport'? Getting an official (...) passport in my country takes much more time.
toss1 6y ago
>>“CEOs assume, because they pay millions of dollars for security and their staff is being trained, they don’t have to take precautions themselves,” Fadare told Rest of World. “That’s why they’re the ones [scammers] aim for. They’re not going to go for the intern whose life is at risk if he messes up; they won’t go for that guy, because the intern takes everything seriously.” Another reminder that security isn't merely one-and-done; it is all about layers...

33 points by danso 6y ago

mod 6y ago

Is there a special way these are prosecuted? How can a Nigerian national face charges in the US for crimes he committed in Nigeria? (Per the article he was in other countries as well, but presumably he could be prosecuted even if he wasn't)

55555 6y ago
If you break American laws or defraud Americans you can be charged in the US. The US nabs foreign cartel members in foreign countries by arranging conspiracies where they do nothing but agree to sell drugs knowing they are intended to end up on US soil.
- grawprog 6y ago
  They can even put bounties on world leaders. https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Americas/2020/0327/Why-US-placed-a-15-million-bounty-on-Venezuela-s-Maduro https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Americas/...
Kalium 6y ago
> How can a Nigerian national face charges in the US for crimes he committed in Nigeria? Defrauding a company across international borders potentially involves committing crimes in multiple countries. The country the defrauded is in, the country the fraudster is in, and possibly several others.

55555 6y ago

I hate how they paint this stuff as technologically impressive. Also... > Their supporters contend they’re simply taking from the haves and giving to the have-nots, a digital form of reparations for the sins of slavery... lol these are Nigerian youths. What does (presumably American) slavery have to do with them?

esrauch 6y ago
Well, many slaves themselves were men forcibly taken from Africa; more from Ghana region but also from Nigeria.
smnrchrds 6y ago
> lol these are Nigerian youths. What does (presumably American) slavery have to do with them? I am going to answer this question on its own, without any relation to the rest of your comment or the article. It has something to do with them, because (1) Nigeria was affected by Atlantic slave trade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slave_market_regions_and_participation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slave_mar... And (2) the trauma and the effects of slavery don't just affect those enslaved, but also those left behind. If outer space aliens come to Earth and take half of population with them to their planet, I expect the city not to get back on its feet for a long long time, if ever.

donohoe 6y ago

Its a bit crazy that as a scammer they talked their way onto the cover of Forbes Africa.

solstice 6y ago
... and what a cover it is, too.
AstralStorm 6y ago
Not particularly unexpected, with a good fake cover story that was not thoroughly checked, he looked like an investor, one who got rich on some lucky risky scheme.

microtherion 6y ago

As an aside, the range of services offered by that Internet cafe in Lagos looks quite impressive.

Gys 6y ago
Like that '2 minute passport'? Getting an official (...) passport in my country takes much more time.

toss1 6y ago

>>“CEOs assume, because they pay millions of dollars for security and their staff is being trained, they don’t have to take precautions themselves,” Fadare told Rest of World. “That’s why they’re the ones [scammers] aim for. They’re not going to go for the intern whose life is at risk if he messes up; they won’t go for that guy, because the intern takes everything seriously.” Another reminder that security isn't merely one-and-done; it is all about layers...