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Except that it's been verified by many people, and you can verify on your own Mac, that the developer's certificate has indeed been revoked, and the apps don't

by _qulr 6y ago

Except that it's been verified by many people, and you can verify on your own Mac, that the developer's certificate has indeed been revoked, and the apps don't work. That part of the story is indisputable.

cdubzzz 6y ago
Sure but the important part of the tweet is “with no warning”. That’s why it is being posted here.
- charliemil4 6y ago
  Apple sends out emails about a month before your certificate expires - I bet they didn’t check it and/or thought the expiry would only apply to new builds *replaced pronouns and specified
  - _qulr 6y ago
    The certificate was revoked, not expired. And expired code signing certs don't prevent Mac apps from running, they just prevent new builds from being signed. $ codesign --verify ~/Downloads/Eon_977.dmg CSSMERR_TP_CERT_REVOKED
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echelon 6y ago
Honestly, no company should have this much control over people's businesses and livelihoods. iPhone is a generic pocket computer, and it has outgrown Apple's desire to maintain a fiefdom. Congress and the EU should force Apple to allow 3rd party marketplaces and installs. Apple is free to charge 30% for the App Store, but they can't be the only way to get code onto an iPhone. Nor should they be the only first class way of doing it. Edit: I frequently get downvotes because of this. Who really wants everything going through Apple 100% of the time? I don't understand this perspective at all. Do you like not having control of your devices?
- LiNeXT 6y ago
  This is actually why I completely left the Apple ecosystem. I ditched the iPhone for a LineageOS device and, since I think the Mac will eventually end up fully locked down as well, decided to get ahead of that race and migrate to Linux.
  - mmrezaie 6y ago
    I have done the same but unfortunately bunch of my applications are not working becasue of them detecting I have modified rom! The switch is not painless.
- CubsFan1060 6y ago
  I like everything going through Apple personally. In fact it's part of the reason I have an iPhone.
  - echelon 6y ago
    It hurts all of the supply-side people that make the ecosystem healthy. It's not a sweatshop, to be sure, but it's definitely a gangster-style shakedown with the eminent feeling of having your green card revoked. Nevermind the fact that this was the platform that pioneered race to the bottom prices with the expectation of free updates for life. The app store is so incredibly toxic and harmful.
  - lenkite 6y ago
    Thats fine. Those who want to can still go through the Apple App Store. Options should be made available for those who don't

by _qulr 6y ago

cdubzzz 6y ago

Sure but the important part of the tweet is “with no warning”. That’s why it is being posted here.

charliemil4 6y ago
Apple sends out emails about a month before your certificate expires - I bet they didn’t check it and/or thought the expiry would only apply to new builds *replaced pronouns and specified
- _qulr 6y ago
  The certificate was revoked, not expired. And expired code signing certs don't prevent Mac apps from running, they just prevent new builds from being signed. $ codesign --verify ~/Downloads/Eon_977.dmg CSSMERR_TP_CERT_REVOKED
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echelon 6y ago

Honestly, no company should have this much control over people's businesses and livelihoods. iPhone is a generic pocket computer, and it has outgrown Apple's desire to maintain a fiefdom. Congress and the EU should force Apple to allow 3rd party marketplaces and installs. Apple is free to charge 30% for the App Store, but they can't be the only way to get code onto an iPhone. Nor should they be the only first class way of doing it. Edit: I frequently get downvotes because of this. Who really wants everything going through Apple 100% of the time? I don't understand this perspective at all. Do you like not having control of your devices?

LiNeXT 6y ago
This is actually why I completely left the Apple ecosystem. I ditched the iPhone for a LineageOS device and, since I think the Mac will eventually end up fully locked down as well, decided to get ahead of that race and migrate to Linux.
- mmrezaie 6y ago
  I have done the same but unfortunately bunch of my applications are not working becasue of them detecting I have modified rom! The switch is not painless.
CubsFan1060 6y ago
I like everything going through Apple personally. In fact it's part of the reason I have an iPhone.
- echelon 6y ago
  It hurts all of the supply-side people that make the ecosystem healthy. It's not a sweatshop, to be sure, but it's definitely a gangster-style shakedown with the eminent feeling of having your green card revoked. Nevermind the fact that this was the platform that pioneered race to the bottom prices with the expectation of free updates for life. The app store is so incredibly toxic and harmful.
- lenkite 6y ago
  Thats fine. Those who want to can still go through the Apple App Store. Options should be made available for those who don't