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This will be flagged I'm sure, but the comments on Reddit, which I'd call a mostly pro BLM community are almost all against George Floyd from this video. I fee

This will be flagged I'm sure, but the comments on Reddit, which I'd call a mostly pro BLM community are almost all against George Floyd from this video. I feel like there will be a shift of significance from this. People are commenting their opinions are changed. https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/i34b5s/leaked_george_floyd_bodycam_footage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/i34b...

jgilias 6y ago
While this does show that this was indeed a difficult case to handle from the police perspective, I don't see how this would make it OK to kneel on someone's neck for a prolonged period of time.
- aaron695 6y ago
  I haven't watched the video because I'm more interested in an unbiased look at how people are reacting to it. The 330 million Americans view is what interests me. If I was a Republican I'd quickly relate the "I can't breath" to drug use for instance. There is a good dog whistle there. HN isn't the community.
  - burfog 6y ago
    "I can't breath" is not at all believable when followed by vigorous non-compliance. Cops are used to criminals saying stuff like "I can't breath" to cause delay and worse. Make it believable with complete compliance, and cops will render aid. BTW, the autopsy showed drug levels high enough to kill a non-abuser 11 times over, plus another 5 already processed by the body.
totetsu 6y ago
Will change anything? Apart from providing a talking point for people who want to deflect from the real issue.
smt88 6y ago
Let's consider this logically. You imply that this video exonerates the police in some way. In order for this video to exonerate the police, it would have to prove that: 1. Four police officers with guns could not safely arrest an unarmed Floyd. 2. Floyd's respiratory distress (likely caused, as Floyd himself said, by Covid-19) was not affected at all by the officer kneeling on his neck. Given examples around the country/world of police departments that arrest low-level, non-violent criminals without kneeling on their necks and killing them, it's hard to see how #1 could be true. If you think that these statements are true, perhaps you could share how this video proves them, rather than trying to justify a very unorthodox claim by citing the collective wisdom of the audience of /r/ActualPublicFreakouts. > ...Reddit, which I'd call a mostly pro BLM community are almost all against George Floyd from this video. Reddit is not representative of anything, and /r/ActualPublicFreakouts isn't even representative of Reddit. It's also not at all "pro BLM", based on the all-time top posts[1]. I'm also unclear why it matters whether this video is changing the minds of people who visit /r/ActualPublicFreakouts. I don't know what kind of person enjoys watching videos (mostly) of people in extreme distress, but I'm personally not interested in their collective opinion of law enforcement reform. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/top/?t=all https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/top/?t=all

jgilias 6y ago

While this does show that this was indeed a difficult case to handle from the police perspective, I don't see how this would make it OK to kneel on someone's neck for a prolonged period of time.

aaron695 6y ago
I haven't watched the video because I'm more interested in an unbiased look at how people are reacting to it. The 330 million Americans view is what interests me. If I was a Republican I'd quickly relate the "I can't breath" to drug use for instance. There is a good dog whistle there. HN isn't the community.
- burfog 6y ago
  "I can't breath" is not at all believable when followed by vigorous non-compliance. Cops are used to criminals saying stuff like "I can't breath" to cause delay and worse. Make it believable with complete compliance, and cops will render aid. BTW, the autopsy showed drug levels high enough to kill a non-abuser 11 times over, plus another 5 already processed by the body.

totetsu 6y ago

Will change anything? Apart from providing a talking point for people who want to deflect from the real issue.

smt88 6y ago

Let's consider this logically. You imply that this video exonerates the police in some way. In order for this video to exonerate the police, it would have to prove that: 1. Four police officers with guns could not safely arrest an unarmed Floyd. 2. Floyd's respiratory distress (likely caused, as Floyd himself said, by Covid-19) was not affected at all by the officer kneeling on his neck. Given examples around the country/world of police departments that arrest low-level, non-violent criminals without kneeling on their necks and killing them, it's hard to see how #1 could be true. If you think that these statements are true, perhaps you could share how this video proves them, rather than trying to justify a very unorthodox claim by citing the collective wisdom of the audience of /r/ActualPublicFreakouts. > ...Reddit, which I'd call a mostly pro BLM community are almost all against George Floyd from this video. Reddit is not representative of anything, and /r/ActualPublicFreakouts isn't even representative of Reddit. It's also not at all "pro BLM", based on the all-time top posts[1]. I'm also unclear why it matters whether this video is changing the minds of people who visit /r/ActualPublicFreakouts. I don't know what kind of person enjoys watching videos (mostly) of people in extreme distress, but I'm personally not interested in their collective opinion of law enforcement reform. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/top/?t=all https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/top/?t=all