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To people who think the point of fashion is to imitate people with higher status, fashion loses its value if your name carries status for you.
by haecceity 6y ago
To people who think the point of fashion is to imitate people with higher status, fashion loses its value if your name carries status for you.
- rayiner 6y agoNobody on a jury knows David Boies, or any other lawyer, by reputation.
- klyrs 6y agoBut they can sure as hell read subtle social cues that occur between the lawyers and the judge. I'd reason that those cues have an outsized impact on how the jury rules.
- perl4ever 6y agoI have been on a jury, and I do, so it's possible. He did represent Al Gore before the Supreme Court, although I suppose that's ancient history now. And he was involved in the SCO vs. Linux stuff.
- JorgeGT 6y agoI'm not even American and I know him for his role in the Theranos affair...
- rtpg 6y agoI mean... David Boies is a pretty famous lawyer! There is likely a huge amount of people who recognize the name, even if they don't know anything about the person. The guy has been on cover of magazines! Maybe _everyone_ on a jury is filtered out to only take people completely disconnected from society but.... probably not. (case in point: many people on this website are not in legal professions yet recognize the name)
- dungdang 6y agotalk about disconnected from society. a lot of people have seen him on a magazine or heard the name on the news. along with about 20 other names. every day. for decades. and the name is forgotten an hour later, with a thousand other names. as far as your point, the 1% of people here reading recognized the name. didn't know why, then googled and remembered. the jury is not here. it's '12 random people from the dmv,' and they don't recognize it, nor will they care to google it. they don't even know who steve jobs is, and won't google it on their iphone.
- irrational 6y agoI’ll provide an opposite anecdote from the other responses. I have no idea who David Boies is.
- TheOtherHobbes 6y agoRelevant: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2000/03/microsoft-200003 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2000/03/microsoft-200003
- cafard 6y agoAfter he was Bill Clinton's attorney in televised impeachment hearings? You have to remember that the jurors' office casts a wide net. With the worst will in the world, the attorneys can't strike everyone who has heard of someone.
- rubber_duck 6y ago>fashion loses its value Value to who ?
- haecceity 6y agoThe wearer.
- roenxi 6y agoPeople who think that a little bit off. The point of fashion is so people don't mistake you for being a little lower status than you are. So high status people can afford to wear clothes with holes in them, because nobody is going to mistake them for people who are poor (royalty can wear what they want, Queen Elizabeth looks like she just picks a colour to me). That can't be imitated by ordinary people, because they would just look poor. Also, fashion isn't for strangers. I mean, I don't know anything about what is fashionable. Nearly nothing at all. So obviously stranger can't impress me with expensive clothes because I can't detect it. The situation is similar with most fashions which are signals for inside an in crowd. It is like a developer putting "Haskell" or "Scheme" on a resume. The goal isn't to impress randoms in HR who don't know what a Haskell is and are suspicious of scheming programmers. It is to signal within a group of semi-peers who don't specifically know who you are.