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I know lots of people will be really happy with this, but I probably would have traded the jack for water resistance

51Cards 6y ago
Agree, water resistance would have been nice but it's not mutually exclusive to the headphone jack. Samsung was doing both for awhile.
- userbinator 6y ago
  Indeed: https://www.cuidevices.com/waterproof-audio-jacks https://www.cuidevices.com/waterproof-audio-jacks
- pixelatedindex 6y ago
  Sony as well! I miss my Compacts :-(
grishka 6y ago
I'd have done the opposite as I never take my phone near water. But then I'm a weirdo who'd gladly pay $2000 for a 4" flagship if such a thing was for sale.
- wutbrodo 6y ago
  Def not a weirdo thing. I got a 4" Galaxy S 1 in 2010 and have preferred it to every other phone size since. I dusted it off not that long ago to use overseas (it was my last GSM phone), and it was still the perfect size.
  - grishka 6y ago
    Your hands didn't grow — what a surprise! Honestly, I did try to embrace this trend by buying a Nexus 6P when it came out in 2015. I thought I'll just get used to it. I did not. Besides being a pain in the rear to use with one hand, it ripped holes through my pockets with its sharp corners. So when they then announced the (5") Pixel 1 a year later, I bought one immediately and it's still my primary phone. Still, it's a tad larger than would be comfortable, I find it that iPhone 5 (or 5S or 1st gen SE) is an ideal size for me. The only problem with these is that they run iOS.
robohoe 6y ago
Yeah do people really use their headphone jack? Most everyone that I know in my circle uses bluetooth headphones now. Some of them are quite good...maybe not audiophile level, but if I wanted to be an audiophile, I would listen on a proper AV receiver with an amp.
- jefftk 6y ago
  Bluetooth headphones for calls add substantial latency. I don't care about audio quality, but latency, often 1/3s round trip, makes turn taking in calls much harder.
- rurp 6y ago
  The main reasons I like a headphone jack are: 1) My car stereo doesn't have Bluetooth. 2) Very few earbuds fit my ears comfortably. After a lot of experimenting I've found a couple wired models that do fit my ears fine. Given the cost and limited selection of wireless earbuds, finding a good pair will be a chore, if I even can. 3) Once in a while having two ports is handy. There are probably dongle solutions to 1 and 3, and maybe I can find some that fit my ears well. But that all sounds like way more hassle than just not buying phones that have been designed to exclude some pretty basic functionality.
  - boring_twenties 6y ago
    > 1) My car stereo doesn't have Bluetooth. This you can fix easily with a $30 dongle that stays in a car, some of them will power on and start playing from where you left off when power is applied (i.e., when you start the car, provided you leave it plugged in). I don't use Bluetooth headphones, but for the car, it's perfect.
- libraryatnight 6y ago
  So, pre-covid, when I used headphones more, I used the jack a lot because I'm just awful at keeping devices charged. I also have saved many a social music situation when someone was having bluetooth pairing issues and I just busted out my aux cable, plugged and and blammo the party has music. I'm an IT guy, could I have fixed the bluetooth pairing? Probably. But not quicker than just plugging in. So we're out there, THERE ARE DOZENS OF US! :)
sk0g 6y ago
Water resistance and a headphone jack are not mutually exclusive though, my Xperia Z5 managed both just fine!
XeO3 6y ago
Sometimes you don`t have to trade. I`m using Samsung S10e with headphone jack and IP68 rating. Best compact phone ever.
GoToRO 6y ago
Be aware: water resistance is not covered by warranty, at all! If you put your new phone in the water and it dies, that’s it! Read the fine print. I read it for iphone because they brag with a bigger water depth. Also, even if when new they might be water tight, after you leave it in the sun the glue that holds the phone together and seals it will melt and age. On a samsung I discovered that above the buttons it had less than 1 mm of glue.

Agree, water resistance would have been nice but it's not mutually exclusive to the headphone jack. Samsung was doing both for awhile.

userbinator 6y ago
Indeed: https://www.cuidevices.com/waterproof-audio-jacks https://www.cuidevices.com/waterproof-audio-jacks
pixelatedindex 6y ago
Sony as well! I miss my Compacts :-(

grishka 6y ago

I'd have done the opposite as I never take my phone near water. But then I'm a weirdo who'd gladly pay $2000 for a 4" flagship if such a thing was for sale.

wutbrodo 6y ago
Def not a weirdo thing. I got a 4" Galaxy S 1 in 2010 and have preferred it to every other phone size since. I dusted it off not that long ago to use overseas (it was my last GSM phone), and it was still the perfect size.
- grishka 6y ago
  Your hands didn't grow — what a surprise! Honestly, I did try to embrace this trend by buying a Nexus 6P when it came out in 2015. I thought I'll just get used to it. I did not. Besides being a pain in the rear to use with one hand, it ripped holes through my pockets with its sharp corners. So when they then announced the (5") Pixel 1 a year later, I bought one immediately and it's still my primary phone. Still, it's a tad larger than would be comfortable, I find it that iPhone 5 (or 5S or 1st gen SE) is an ideal size for me. The only problem with these is that they run iOS.

robohoe 6y ago

Yeah do people really use their headphone jack? Most everyone that I know in my circle uses bluetooth headphones now. Some of them are quite good...maybe not audiophile level, but if I wanted to be an audiophile, I would listen on a proper AV receiver with an amp.

jefftk 6y ago
Bluetooth headphones for calls add substantial latency. I don't care about audio quality, but latency, often 1/3s round trip, makes turn taking in calls much harder.
rurp 6y ago
The main reasons I like a headphone jack are: 1) My car stereo doesn't have Bluetooth. 2) Very few earbuds fit my ears comfortably. After a lot of experimenting I've found a couple wired models that do fit my ears fine. Given the cost and limited selection of wireless earbuds, finding a good pair will be a chore, if I even can. 3) Once in a while having two ports is handy. There are probably dongle solutions to 1 and 3, and maybe I can find some that fit my ears well. But that all sounds like way more hassle than just not buying phones that have been designed to exclude some pretty basic functionality.
- boring_twenties 6y ago
  > 1) My car stereo doesn't have Bluetooth. This you can fix easily with a $30 dongle that stays in a car, some of them will power on and start playing from where you left off when power is applied (i.e., when you start the car, provided you leave it plugged in). I don't use Bluetooth headphones, but for the car, it's perfect.
libraryatnight 6y ago
So, pre-covid, when I used headphones more, I used the jack a lot because I'm just awful at keeping devices charged. I also have saved many a social music situation when someone was having bluetooth pairing issues and I just busted out my aux cable, plugged and and blammo the party has music. I'm an IT guy, could I have fixed the bluetooth pairing? Probably. But not quicker than just plugging in. So we're out there, THERE ARE DOZENS OF US! :)

sk0g 6y ago

Water resistance and a headphone jack are not mutually exclusive though, my Xperia Z5 managed both just fine!

XeO3 6y ago

Sometimes you don`t have to trade. I`m using Samsung S10e with headphone jack and IP68 rating. Best compact phone ever.

GoToRO 6y ago

Be aware: water resistance is not covered by warranty, at all! If you put your new phone in the water and it dies, that’s it! Read the fine print. I read it for iphone because they brag with a bigger water depth. Also, even if when new they might be water tight, after you leave it in the sun the glue that holds the phone together and seals it will melt and age. On a samsung I discovered that above the buttons it had less than 1 mm of glue.