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You are ignoring part of my post by selecting that quote out of context. I also said this: >Every other industry would do or is currently doing the exact same

by slg 6y ago

You are ignoring part of my post by selecting that quote out of context. I also said this: >Every other industry would do or is currently doing the exact same thing You are of course free to blame whoever you want, but if you call out the clothing industry for these behaviors while also working in the tech industry which is notoriously guilty of nearly identical problems with its international workforce, I would certainly call you hypocritical. Either way, I think a more appropriate path to actually fixing the problem isn't to shame the people with the bad behavior. It is to work to make that behavior illegal. This specific example is more difficult than the tax prep issue due to it involving other nations. However there are certainly trade regulations that could be put in place to disincentivize poor labor conditions for companies who wish to access the American market.

cheriot 6y ago
I specifically cited an industry that was forced to change by customer behavior (boycotts). Regardless of the change required here, it starts by driving awareness and making this behavior socially unacceptable. There won't be any political will to counter their lobbyists without it.
- slg 6y ago
  >I specifically cited an industry that was forced to change by customer behavior Did they really change? [1] When you rely on public outrage as a motivator, the changes are only as permanent as the public is attentive and motivated. [1] - https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/study-links-nike-adidas-and-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/stud...
  - cheriot 6y ago
    Do you think politicians will legislate permanent change without that outrage? If people saw sweatshops on TV and said, “well, they’re just trying to maximize profit” it will guarantee nothing changes. > Some brands including Adidas, Bosch and Panasonic told ASPI they had no direct contractual relationships with the suppliers indicated in the report, but no one could rule out a link further down their supply chain. Our society has come a long way on this issue. Of course more progress is needed and all of these companies know this connection is a liability.

by slg 6y ago

cheriot 6y ago

I specifically cited an industry that was forced to change by customer behavior (boycotts). Regardless of the change required here, it starts by driving awareness and making this behavior socially unacceptable. There won't be any political will to counter their lobbyists without it.

slg 6y ago
>I specifically cited an industry that was forced to change by customer behavior Did they really change? [1] When you rely on public outrage as a motivator, the changes are only as permanent as the public is attentive and motivated. [1] - https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/study-links-nike-adidas-and-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/stud...
- cheriot 6y ago
  Do you think politicians will legislate permanent change without that outrage? If people saw sweatshops on TV and said, “well, they’re just trying to maximize profit” it will guarantee nothing changes. > Some brands including Adidas, Bosch and Panasonic told ASPI they had no direct contractual relationships with the suppliers indicated in the report, but no one could rule out a link further down their supply chain. Our society has come a long way on this issue. Of course more progress is needed and all of these companies know this connection is a liability.