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I think Jon to some extent fails to realize that having options (i.e. sorting by date) comes at the price of complexity. A significant amount of modern softwar

by ig1 16y ago

I think Jon to some extent fails to realize that having options (i.e. sorting by date) comes at the price of complexity. A significant amount of modern software has gone the opposite way seeking to remove options to simplify products for users. Facebook grew up competing against MySpace, a site which gave it's users more options and configurability than anyone could want. Facebook realized that users don't want to be able to tweak everything, they want things to be standardized and just work. It's philosophically the Facebook way.

diego 16y ago
While that may be true for Facebook users, it's not true for users of specific sites that use their comment system. Part of my thinking when coming up with the idea for IndexTank is that sites need to control their UX (search in our case). The vast majority cannot invest in building backend technology, so they use what's readily available and easy. Facebook comments are easy, but they are not customizable. I haven't tried Disqus, but if I were them I'd focus on ease of use and control (not by the end user, but by the site).
- ciopte7 16y ago
  Thanks for making Index Tank, I am just starting to implement it into my ruby application and have found it to be easier than any other search option I have tried.
brown9-2 16y ago
Who are the users of this commenting plugin - the site owner, the reader, or the commenter?
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pacohn 16y ago
I don't know if he fails to realize it so much as it just makes him want to rant. Whatever the case may be, what works on a social network might not work for a cross-platform interface. I miss Disqus at TC. I think they were working on a solution for problems with commenting. I don't get that sense from Facebook comments.
NickDouglas 16y ago
To only sort by date is simplicity. To only sort by "relevance" as determined by friend-of-friend connections is needless complexity.

by ig1 16y ago

diego 16y ago

While that may be true for Facebook users, it's not true for users of specific sites that use their comment system. Part of my thinking when coming up with the idea for IndexTank is that sites need to control their UX (search in our case). The vast majority cannot invest in building backend technology, so they use what's readily available and easy. Facebook comments are easy, but they are not customizable. I haven't tried Disqus, but if I were them I'd focus on ease of use and control (not by the end user, but by the site).

ciopte7 16y ago
Thanks for making Index Tank, I am just starting to implement it into my ruby application and have found it to be easier than any other search option I have tried.

brown9-2 16y ago

Who are the users of this commenting plugin - the site owner, the reader, or the commenter?

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pacohn 16y ago

I don't know if he fails to realize it so much as it just makes him want to rant. Whatever the case may be, what works on a social network might not work for a cross-platform interface. I miss Disqus at TC. I think they were working on a solution for problems with commenting. I don't get that sense from Facebook comments.

NickDouglas 16y ago

To only sort by date is simplicity. To only sort by "relevance" as determined by friend-of-friend connections is needless complexity.