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If you're talking about people like Chris Wallace, then I agree with your point. People like him are very much an example of The Cathedral but on the conservati
by googthrowaway42 6y ago
If you're talking about people like Chris Wallace, then I agree with your point. People like him are very much an example of The Cathedral but on the conservative side. Even stuff like The Five is pretty middle brow and establishmentarian but they aren't the vanguards of mainstream conservatism like Maddow and Joy Reid and others are for mainstream liberalism.
Steve Bannon and his movement are more representative of mainstream conservatism. Even someone Tucker Carlson used to be very much like Chris Wallace. The reason why his program is so popular now is because he's shifted radically away from his establishmentarian position towards Steve Bannon's position.
Personally I don't watch Fox News because of how low to middle brow and Cathedral-like it is.
- busterarm 6y agoIf Maddow is the vanguard of mainstream liberalism, why are her ratings so terrible?
- googthrowaway42 6y agoProbably because the Cathedral of mainstream liberalism has been mortally wounded over the past decade. That has rapidly accelerated as of late and you're seeing the last dying breaths with the rise of populism on the left and right. Maddow used to have much higher ratings. AOC for example is not part of mainstream liberalism. She is at the vanguard of mainstream popular leftism.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoYou can only get a plurality in most cases with mainstream media, because like it or not it does tend to be progressive/liberal in most outlets (in the American sense, not European).
- busterarm 6y agoThat doesn't explain why FOX is twice as watched as MSNBC.
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y agoNPR's drivetime radio shows have bigger audiences than Fox, for almost all of its shows (and sometimes, for all of its shows). Cable TV is still a niche.