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One key result of this evidence is that we should take all the money going into deep cleaning, and spend it on higher quality masks for everyone. Also perhaps m
by unclesaamm 6y ago
One key result of this evidence is that we should take all the money going into deep cleaning, and spend it on higher quality masks for everyone. Also perhaps makeshift ventilation systems (being careful not to replicate that Hong Kong restaurant) or outdoor tents where feasible.
- beamatronic 6y agoWhat was the restaurant doing wrong? Was it recirculating indoor air? Or was it actually exchanging the air? Replacing indoor air with fresh air from outside.
- unclesaamm 6y agoThe article links to the study. The issue was more than certain people sat downwind of others indoors, rather than where the air came from. Let me know if you read a different conclusion from it.
- beamatronic 6y agoNow I’m really curious. How does one exchange indoor air safely?
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- felbane 6y agoAs I understand it, the restaurant had an air conditioner in front of a table, and an infected but asymptomatic person was breathing into the airstream which was then circulated to infect anyone downwind of the a/c.
- doliveira 6y agoI was under the impression that the aerosol route was just common knowledge, but last week my state government (in Brazil) was doing deep cleaning in schools that have been closed for like 100 days. Yeah, good thing you're deep cleaning probably the last place on earth with no coronavirus! Now we'll only have problems if people want to breath in there... Such a stupid security theater.
- spanhandler 6y agoStaff may go to schools even when they're closed for students. That may not have been the case there, but cleaning a "closed" school isn't necessarily ridiculous.
- mr__y 6y agoSomewhat ironically, people doing that cleaning might spread coronavirus into those places if they happen to be asymptomatic carriers
- snarf21 6y agoYeah, this is the fundamental failure of this administration. Months ago we could have designed a high quality and visually unique mask with less than N95 efficiency but with a reasonable safety and comfort level. We should already have been manufacturing and distributing them at cost. They should be mandatory in all enclosed spaces and we could have prevented a lot of the spike in spread we are seeing now and are likely to see as more and more things open up.
- misanthropian00 6y agoThere is no reason to design a worse mask than N95. They could have just manufactured more N95 masks and rationed them to prevent hoarding and speculating. Every household could get an N95 mask ration card to buy masks and decon tools like UV-C lights and sparky ozone generators.
- ghaff 6y agoPeople were not going to fit N95 masks properly or wear them for any extended period. ADDED: In fact, I'd argue that making N95 masks mandatory (as opposed to face coverings more broadly) would be extremely bad policy even if they were readily available.
- misanthropian00 6y agoYou would have to be literally retarded to not figure out how to wear an N95 mask. They fit most people, at least clean shaven ones. You just have to bend the metal nose band to fit your nose and maybe go around the edges of the mask with your fingers. Yes some tiny percentage of people probably have oddly shaped faces and they won't be able to wear them, but that doesn't mean the other 99.9% of the population cannot.
- newen 6y agoIt's very difficult to wear an N95; it's really constrictive and uncomformtable. You can't expect civilians to wear N95 masks all the time and you need to weigh the comfort of a mask against its effectiveness.
- wonderwonder 6y agoIt is common knowledge. They are doing the deep cleaning as a means to calm the masses. They know it does not really go any distance towards solving the issue but they don't want / have the funding nor the political capital to address the ventilation issue.