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This is not a "sell or close" it's a "cut ties with a foreign government or stop operating here". TikTok can continue operating, just not in the US.

by IMTDb 6y ago

rfoo 6y ago
> cut ties with a foreign government or stop operating here How is it possible for someone to prove that they have no foreign government ties? Are there any evidence backing the "foreign government tie"?
- IMTDb 6y ago
  Proving it might be hard. But a first step would be to get rid of its internal committee of the Chinese Communist Party. And to stop making joint venture with government agencies. To put it in other words, if there was a dedicated spot for the US secretary of defence on the board of Google, how fast do you think other countries would take some actions against Google ?
  - rfoo 6y ago
    > stop making joint venture with government agencies. Good point, I don't know they have JVs with government agencies before, had to do some research on this. > get rid of its internal committee of the Chinese Communist Party This is hard, if not impossible, if you meant "党委" ("party committee") or "党支部" ("party branch"), because CCP demands any organization with more than 3 party members SHOULD have one. ("should" should be interpreted roughly as the same word in RFC Requirement Levels) And just like they usually have no problem if people chose to deny joining the party but may hassle you forever if you quit, if you try to shutdown an existing "committee" it would be seen as hostile. That being said, most of the mid-to-large-sized startups are actively ignoring these requirements until being forced, because apparently even if you are required to do so, you have to go through a hairy application process. And the "committee" in most corps (including mega corps) are essentially an empty shell, a symbolic thing to make CCP happy, so corps usually have no motivation to change the status quo. Yet CCP do extremely care about these symbolic stuff, it is even forcing foreign companies to do this, IIRC Disney agreed to do so.

This is not a "sell or close" it's a "cut ties with a foreign government or stop operating here". TikTok can continue operating, just not in the US.

by IMTDb 6y ago

This is not a "sell or close" it's a "cut ties with a foreign government or stop operating here". TikTok can continue operating, just not in the US.

rfoo 6y ago

> cut ties with a foreign government or stop operating here How is it possible for someone to prove that they have no foreign government ties? Are there any evidence backing the "foreign government tie"?

IMTDb 6y ago
Proving it might be hard. But a first step would be to get rid of its internal committee of the Chinese Communist Party. And to stop making joint venture with government agencies. To put it in other words, if there was a dedicated spot for the US secretary of defence on the board of Google, how fast do you think other countries would take some actions against Google ?
- rfoo 6y ago
  > stop making joint venture with government agencies. Good point, I don't know they have JVs with government agencies before, had to do some research on this. > get rid of its internal committee of the Chinese Communist Party This is hard, if not impossible, if you meant "党委" ("party committee") or "党支部" ("party branch"), because CCP demands any organization with more than 3 party members SHOULD have one. ("should" should be interpreted roughly as the same word in RFC Requirement Levels) And just like they usually have no problem if people chose to deny joining the party but may hassle you forever if you quit, if you try to shutdown an existing "committee" it would be seen as hostile. That being said, most of the mid-to-large-sized startups are actively ignoring these requirements until being forced, because apparently even if you are required to do so, you have to go through a hairy application process. And the "committee" in most corps (including mega corps) are essentially an empty shell, a symbolic thing to make CCP happy, so corps usually have no motivation to change the status quo. Yet CCP do extremely care about these symbolic stuff, it is even forcing foreign companies to do this, IIRC Disney agreed to do so.