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The bad thing about snopes is they don't have a spectrum, it's a binary 'fact or not fact' system. This means even a slight bit of bias can be the difference be

The bad thing about snopes is they don't have a spectrum, it's a binary 'fact or not fact' system. This means even a slight bit of bias can be the difference between fact or not. But the more important question is why a random website is being used as the basis for truth. They don't even try to hide the bias in their language, it's just filled with words you would never see in an academic document.

foobarbecue 6y ago
False. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check-ratings/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check-ratings/
- askxnakjsn 6y ago
  I was thinking more along the lines of a true spectrum, like a percentage system. What you have here is a bunch of qualitative truthiness symbols decided arbitrarily, it's not much different from just saying true or false. For example, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/marijuana-electron-microscope/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/marijuana-electron-microsc... this article would lead a passerby to believe that there is equal parts truth and lie in this picture + caption. In reality I would judge this as 'mostly true' because the caption is more true than it is false.
  - DangitBobby 6y ago
    I saw one on PolitiFact about Biden a while back. The claim was that he's been fighting to cut social security benefits for the last 40 years. The verdict was "mostly false" but if you read the contents [1], it's "mostly true." You see shit like this all the time. 1. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/12/bernie-sanders/sanders-misleading-social-security-attack-biden/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/12/bernie-san...
    - stjohnswarts 6y ago
      It's more in the middle. He clearly was going with the flow of politics at the time on budget hawking. It hardly seems like he wanted to eliminate/privatize SS like most conservatives who aren't retired want to do. So there a levels to "cutting social security" like most complicated topics from freezing it to reducing it to eliminating it. I agree though their mostly false doesn't seem reasonable to me from a statistical analysis of what they presented in the article
  - michaelcampbell 6y ago
    This is starting to strain credulity. It says "mixed", not "evenly mixed" or anything to imply even-ness of true/false. The NEXT 2 PARAGRAPHS say, in simple language, what part is true and which is not.
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  - foobarbecue 6y ago
    You said "binary."

foobarbecue 6y ago

False. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check-ratings/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check-ratings/

askxnakjsn 6y ago
I was thinking more along the lines of a true spectrum, like a percentage system. What you have here is a bunch of qualitative truthiness symbols decided arbitrarily, it's not much different from just saying true or false. For example, https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/marijuana-electron-microscope/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/marijuana-electron-microsc... this article would lead a passerby to believe that there is equal parts truth and lie in this picture + caption. In reality I would judge this as 'mostly true' because the caption is more true than it is false.
- DangitBobby 6y ago
  I saw one on PolitiFact about Biden a while back. The claim was that he's been fighting to cut social security benefits for the last 40 years. The verdict was "mostly false" but if you read the contents [1], it's "mostly true." You see shit like this all the time. 1. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/12/bernie-sanders/sanders-misleading-social-security-attack-biden/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/12/bernie-san...
  - stjohnswarts 6y ago
    It's more in the middle. He clearly was going with the flow of politics at the time on budget hawking. It hardly seems like he wanted to eliminate/privatize SS like most conservatives who aren't retired want to do. So there a levels to "cutting social security" like most complicated topics from freezing it to reducing it to eliminating it. I agree though their mostly false doesn't seem reasonable to me from a statistical analysis of what they presented in the article
- michaelcampbell 6y ago
  This is starting to strain credulity. It says "mixed", not "evenly mixed" or anything to imply even-ness of true/false. The NEXT 2 PARAGRAPHS say, in simple language, what part is true and which is not.
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- foobarbecue 6y ago
  You said "binary."