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Should american apps be therefore banned by the other countries? I'm talking about american apps as the issue here is china vs usa, otherwise any other country
by rat9988 6y ago
Should american apps be therefore banned by the other countries? I'm talking about american apps as the issue here is china vs usa, otherwise any other country that produces apps is probably guilty of the same collection.
- threeseed 6y ago1) Most non-Chinese apps are already banned in China. 2) The world trusts US companies because unlike China the US is not a dictatorship, has a functioning, independent judiciary and generally abides by international law. So there is a far greater level of trust there because there are legal mechanisms to prevent breaches.
- ethbro 6y ago> The world trusts US companies because unlike China the US is not a dictatorship, has a functioning, independent judiciary and generally abides by international law. I feel like this always get short shrift in whataboutism discussions. In China, everything is by law in service and subordinate to the Party. In the US, not. That seems like a pretty big difference.
- paradoja 6y agoThis seems to ignore the Snowden revelations. I don't think most of the world trusts US companies qualitatively more than they trust Chinese companies for these kinds of apps. Also, the discussion was about national security and you are giving different arguments here. How is this related to national security?
- nouveaux 6y agoIs this really true? You do not think China's actions in Hong Kong has put more doubts into China's policy on human rights compared to United States? If you tell me you believe they are equal, I'll take your word for it. While the United States has plenty of flaws, I think they are still far more trusted when it comes to human rights.
- bamboozled 6y agoMaybe an unpopular point of view, but from where I'm standing, it's sure starting to look scarily like one.
- chrischen 6y ago“The world trusts US companies” is definitely not true in the sense we are talking about. Legal mechanisms exist everywhere and can be broken if not by selective enforcement but also by the voters.
- threeseed 6y agoIt takes years and significant effort to overturn laws in most countries. In China they can do it anytime Xi Jinping snaps his fingers. That's why countries do not trust China.
- pishpash 6y agoYou discount how easily and quickly it is for countries (e.g. the US) to go full retard, when the evidence is literally right in your face. That's what a blind ideologue looks like, folks.
- codedokode 6y agoThen isn't it strange that TikTok and Huawei have issues in US (where laws "cannot be overturned") but not in China?
- valuearb 6y ago1) it doesn’t matter what other countries without our constitutional protections do.
- pishpash 6y ago(2) sounds like what a typical propagandist would say. Too bad it's so outdated that nobody believes it any more.