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Huh. They do mention this as "potential obvious advantage" in the post I linked: > Bridging between Matrix and Whisper (Ethereum's own real-time communication

Huh. They do mention this as "potential obvious advantage" in the post I linked: > Bridging between Matrix and Whisper (Ethereum's own real-time communication protocol) - exposing all of the Matrix ecosystem into Ethereum and vice versa But maybe this is just meaningless marketing fluff and something that's effectively left to "the community".

maqp 6y ago
Quick unrelated comment from the peanut gallery: Every time any crypto-currency related messaging app is published, I think it should be mandatory to immediately explain what the currency and/or blockchain brings to the table. Is it a paid app? Does it store ciphertexts indenfinitely to the blockchain? Or public keys?
- Legogris 6y ago
  While I understand where you're coming from, Status is an interesting project even if you completely disregard their (IMO shoehorned utility-) token. The main thing they have right now is an app acting as a wallet (ETH and Ethereum-based tokens) and IM app (Whisper protocol). It's standard practice that what you request is answered in a whitepaper, which is also the case for Status: https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf
  - michaelsbradley 6y ago
    Status now uses the Waku protocol, Whisper is pretty much dead.
  - maqp 6y ago
    Jesus Christ, that must be fourth or fifth "whitepaper" I see from the cryptocurrency community. Here's what a proper whitepapers should look like: https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubleratchet.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubler... Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors, not a technical description for infosec professionals. I find the content almost repulsive.
    - michaelsbradley 6y ago
      https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html Waku is in R&D by Status.
    - Legogris 6y ago
      > Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors TBF, that is the more commonly understood meaning of "white paper". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-business_marketing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-bus...
      - maqp 6y ago
        Oh, TIL. I'm still unable to find the information from the white paper that was promised to be there.
        michaelsbradley 6y ago
        Status core contributor here. Which information in particular are you looking for? In answer to your questions above: What [do] the currency and/or blockchain brings to the table? Decentralized messaging tech aims at making 1-1 and group messaging more secure. It is not inherently tied to blockchain / cryptocurrency, though for an economically incentivized network of mailserver nodes it could make sense to realize the incentivization mechanisms via cryptocurrency transfers. See: https://vac.dev/vac-overview https://vac.dev/vac-overview The Waku protocol, currently used by the Status mobile and desktops apps, is being developed by the Vac team, which is part of Status. The Status client includes an Ethereum wallet because many people interested in the messaging technology are also interested in cryptocurrency. Is it a paid app? No, it is free to download and free to use, and all the software developed by Status is open source: https://github.com/status-im/ https://github.com/status-im/ Does it store ciphertexts indenfinitely to the blockchain? Or public keys? Sending and receiving messages does not involve transactions on the blockchain; messages are not stored on the blockchain. You may be interested to read more in the technical FAQ: https://status.im/technical/FAQs.html https://status.im/technical/FAQs.html

maqp 6y ago

Quick unrelated comment from the peanut gallery: Every time any crypto-currency related messaging app is published, I think it should be mandatory to immediately explain what the currency and/or blockchain brings to the table. Is it a paid app? Does it store ciphertexts indenfinitely to the blockchain? Or public keys?

Legogris 6y ago
While I understand where you're coming from, Status is an interesting project even if you completely disregard their (IMO shoehorned utility-) token. The main thing they have right now is an app acting as a wallet (ETH and Ethereum-based tokens) and IM app (Whisper protocol). It's standard practice that what you request is answered in a whitepaper, which is also the case for Status: https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf
- michaelsbradley 6y ago
  Status now uses the Waku protocol, Whisper is pretty much dead.
- maqp 6y ago
  Jesus Christ, that must be fourth or fifth "whitepaper" I see from the cryptocurrency community. Here's what a proper whitepapers should look like: https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubleratchet.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubler... Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors, not a technical description for infosec professionals. I find the content almost repulsive.
  - michaelsbradley 6y ago
    https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html Waku is in R&D by Status.
  - Legogris 6y ago
    > Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors TBF, that is the more commonly understood meaning of "white paper". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-business_marketing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-bus...
    - maqp 6y ago
      Oh, TIL. I'm still unable to find the information from the white paper that was promised to be there.
      - michaelsbradley 6y ago
        Status core contributor here. Which information in particular are you looking for? In answer to your questions above: What [do] the currency and/or blockchain brings to the table? Decentralized messaging tech aims at making 1-1 and group messaging more secure. It is not inherently tied to blockchain / cryptocurrency, though for an economically incentivized network of mailserver nodes it could make sense to realize the incentivization mechanisms via cryptocurrency transfers. See: https://vac.dev/vac-overview https://vac.dev/vac-overview The Waku protocol, currently used by the Status mobile and desktops apps, is being developed by the Vac team, which is part of Status. The Status client includes an Ethereum wallet because many people interested in the messaging technology are also interested in cryptocurrency. Is it a paid app? No, it is free to download and free to use, and all the software developed by Status is open source: https://github.com/status-im/ https://github.com/status-im/ Does it store ciphertexts indenfinitely to the blockchain? Or public keys? Sending and receiving messages does not involve transactions on the blockchain; messages are not stored on the blockchain. You may be interested to read more in the technical FAQ: https://status.im/technical/FAQs.html https://status.im/technical/FAQs.html