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Did you look into Status? https://status.im/ https://status.im/ https://github.com/status-im/status-react https://github.com/status-im/status-react https://g

Did you look into Status? https://status.im/ https://status.im/ https://github.com/status-im/status-react https://github.com/status-im/status-react https://github.com/status-im/nim-status-client https://github.com/status-im/nim-status-client

Legogris 6y ago
I've been out of the loop a bit on Status recently; do you know if it's currently utilizing Matrix protocol or if it's on the roadmap? I take their partnership and $5M investment into New Vector in 2018 as an indication of such intentions. Or perhaps they're intending to just bridge Whisper and Matrix. https://matrix.org/blog/2018/01/29/status-partners-up-with-new-vector-fueling-decentralised-comms-and-the-matrix-ecosystem https://matrix.org/blog/2018/01/29/status-partners-up-with-n...
- divan 6y ago
  No, that investment was for establishing good relationship. There were no attempts or discussions to marry or bridge protocols.
  - Legogris 6y ago
    Huh. They do mention this as "potential obvious advantage" in the post I linked: > Bridging between Matrix and Whisper (Ethereum's own real-time communication protocol) - exposing all of the Matrix ecosystem into Ethereum and vice versa But maybe this is just meaningless marketing fluff and something that's effectively left to "the community".
    - maqp 6y ago
      Quick unrelated comment from the peanut gallery: Every time any crypto-currency related messaging app is published, I think it should be mandatory to immediately explain what the currency and/or blockchain brings to the table. Is it a paid app? Does it store ciphertexts indenfinitely to the blockchain? Or public keys?
      - Legogris 6y ago
        While I understand where you're coming from, Status is an interesting project even if you completely disregard their (IMO shoehorned utility-) token. The main thing they have right now is an app acting as a wallet (ETH and Ethereum-based tokens) and IM app (Whisper protocol). It's standard practice that what you request is answered in a whitepaper, which is also the case for Status: https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf
        michaelsbradley 6y ago
        Status now uses the Waku protocol, Whisper is pretty much dead.
        maqp 6y ago
        Jesus Christ, that must be fourth or fifth "whitepaper" I see from the cryptocurrency community. Here's what a proper whitepapers should look like: https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubleratchet.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubler... Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors, not a technical description for infosec professionals. I find the content almost repulsive.
        michaelsbradley 6y ago
        https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html Waku is in R&D by Status.
        Legogris 6y ago
        > Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors TBF, that is the more commonly understood meaning of "white paper". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-business_marketing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-bus...
        6y ago
foresto 6y ago
I didn't, but since you linked to it, I took a peek. I couldn't find any linux, macos, or windows support within a couple minutes of visiting the site, so it fails my "cross-platform" and "easy enough" requirements. It seems to be married to Ethereum. That's mildly interesting. It raises questions about its relationship to cryptocurrency and blockchain tech, but until it meets my requirements, I'm not inclined to spend time investigating the answers.
- michaelsbradley 6y ago
  The desktop client (linux, macos, windows) is a work in progress; alpha builds are available. See the third link in my comment to which you replied. I could have been more clear on that point — I replied on my phone just before going to bed. The wallet functionality is tied to Ethereum, but the chat functionality works separately. Originally Status used the Whisper protocol, which used to ship with some Ethereum clients but never gained real traction. Status has switched to a protocol named Waku that's in development but progressing nicely. If at some point you're interested and have questions, let us know! (I'm on the team developing the desktop client)

Legogris 6y ago

I've been out of the loop a bit on Status recently; do you know if it's currently utilizing Matrix protocol or if it's on the roadmap? I take their partnership and $5M investment into New Vector in 2018 as an indication of such intentions. Or perhaps they're intending to just bridge Whisper and Matrix. https://matrix.org/blog/2018/01/29/status-partners-up-with-new-vector-fueling-decentralised-comms-and-the-matrix-ecosystem https://matrix.org/blog/2018/01/29/status-partners-up-with-n...

divan 6y ago
No, that investment was for establishing good relationship. There were no attempts or discussions to marry or bridge protocols.
- Legogris 6y ago
  Huh. They do mention this as "potential obvious advantage" in the post I linked: > Bridging between Matrix and Whisper (Ethereum's own real-time communication protocol) - exposing all of the Matrix ecosystem into Ethereum and vice versa But maybe this is just meaningless marketing fluff and something that's effectively left to "the community".
  - maqp 6y ago
    Quick unrelated comment from the peanut gallery: Every time any crypto-currency related messaging app is published, I think it should be mandatory to immediately explain what the currency and/or blockchain brings to the table. Is it a paid app? Does it store ciphertexts indenfinitely to the blockchain? Or public keys?
    - Legogris 6y ago
      While I understand where you're coming from, Status is an interesting project even if you completely disregard their (IMO shoehorned utility-) token. The main thing they have right now is an app acting as a wallet (ETH and Ethereum-based tokens) and IM app (Whisper protocol). It's standard practice that what you request is answered in a whitepaper, which is also the case for Status: https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf https://status.im/whitepaper.pdf
      - michaelsbradley 6y ago
        Status now uses the Waku protocol, Whisper is pretty much dead.
      - maqp 6y ago
        Jesus Christ, that must be fourth or fifth "whitepaper" I see from the cryptocurrency community. Here's what a proper whitepapers should look like: https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/x3dh/x3dh.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubleratchet.pdf https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/doubler... Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors, not a technical description for infosec professionals. I find the content almost repulsive.
        michaelsbradley 6y ago
        https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html https://specs.vac.dev/specs/waku/waku.html Waku is in R&D by Status.
        Legogris 6y ago
        > Status' whitepaper looks like marketing material for investors TBF, that is the more commonly understood meaning of "white paper". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-business_marketing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper#In_business-to-bus...
        6y ago

foresto 6y ago

I didn't, but since you linked to it, I took a peek. I couldn't find any linux, macos, or windows support within a couple minutes of visiting the site, so it fails my "cross-platform" and "easy enough" requirements. It seems to be married to Ethereum. That's mildly interesting. It raises questions about its relationship to cryptocurrency and blockchain tech, but until it meets my requirements, I'm not inclined to spend time investigating the answers.

michaelsbradley 6y ago
The desktop client (linux, macos, windows) is a work in progress; alpha builds are available. See the third link in my comment to which you replied. I could have been more clear on that point — I replied on my phone just before going to bed. The wallet functionality is tied to Ethereum, but the chat functionality works separately. Originally Status used the Whisper protocol, which used to ship with some Ethereum clients but never gained real traction. Status has switched to a protocol named Waku that's in development but progressing nicely. If at some point you're interested and have questions, let us know! (I'm on the team developing the desktop client)