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You seem like a nice fellow. And smart! How about somehow aligning your life's work to not further the goals of enormous corporations that do not seem to have t

You seem like a nice fellow. And smart! How about somehow aligning your life's work to not further the goals of enormous corporations that do not seem to have the best interests of us at heart.

joshuamorton 6y ago
From my (insider, biased, more informed, however you want to describe it) point of view, the fears you have are unfounded. Why should I chose to pursue a different employer based on someone else's ill-founded concerns? Elaborating a bit more, there's a motte and Bailey you're pulling here. I'd agree that Google doesn't have broadly "the best interests of us" at heart, but that's true for every corporation. If that's your bar for ethical action, you're asking me to not participate in capitalism as a whole. I look forward to that world too, but unfortunately we aren't there today.
- minerjoe 6y ago
  > we aren't there today Be the change you wish to see in the world. Waiting for others is the problem.
  - joshuamorton 6y ago
    There's, broadly speaking, a difference between telling me to find a different employer based on an unfounded concern (what you did) and asking me to work to enact a more socialist future. It's not even clear that the two are aligned in all cases.
    - minerjoe 6y ago
      I'm not sure who you are reading, but I never suggested that you find another employer. I suggested you figure out a way to use your limited time here on Mother Earth to not further the giant machine that is seemingly destroying everything of true value on this planet. Big order, yes, but you are young and it's not too late to make a change for the better (for us all). It's a high bar, but I have faith in you.
- encom 6y ago
  >that's true for every corporation As a cynical person I agree, but Google is special in this case, because their core function is spying on people and selling their data to advertisers, and they are extremely successful.

You seem like a nice fellow. And smart! How about somehow aligning your life's work to not further the goals of enormous corporations that do not seem to have the best interests of us at heart.

joshuamorton 6y ago

From my (insider, biased, more informed, however you want to describe it) point of view, the fears you have are unfounded. Why should I chose to pursue a different employer based on someone else's ill-founded concerns? Elaborating a bit more, there's a motte and Bailey you're pulling here. I'd agree that Google doesn't have broadly "the best interests of us" at heart, but that's true for every corporation. If that's your bar for ethical action, you're asking me to not participate in capitalism as a whole. I look forward to that world too, but unfortunately we aren't there today.

minerjoe 6y ago
> we aren't there today Be the change you wish to see in the world. Waiting for others is the problem.
- joshuamorton 6y ago
  There's, broadly speaking, a difference between telling me to find a different employer based on an unfounded concern (what you did) and asking me to work to enact a more socialist future. It's not even clear that the two are aligned in all cases.
  - minerjoe 6y ago
    I'm not sure who you are reading, but I never suggested that you find another employer. I suggested you figure out a way to use your limited time here on Mother Earth to not further the giant machine that is seemingly destroying everything of true value on this planet. Big order, yes, but you are young and it's not too late to make a change for the better (for us all). It's a high bar, but I have faith in you.
encom 6y ago
>that's true for every corporation As a cynical person I agree, but Google is special in this case, because their core function is spying on people and selling their data to advertisers, and they are extremely successful.