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Samsung 870 QVO SATA 2.5“ SSD 8TB

kasabali 6y ago
> Samsung 870 QVO 1 TB Review - Terrible, Do Not Buy > https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-870-qvo-1-tb/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-870-qvo-1-tb/ 2+TB SKUs have slightly better performance but I would still choose TLC everyday over this. A hypothetical 6TB TLC version would cost the same but perform much better while having much much longer endurance.
- RealStickman_ 6y ago
  It's impressive how well the caching in these SSDs works to still provide good performance until the cache is full and performance falls off a cliff.
ksec 6y ago
The cheapest SSD per TB I have seen was 2TB @ $159 from Sandisk[1], which is an one off price, but most of the SATA non NVME PCI-E SSD can go as low as $90 - $100 / TB. I dont mind QLC / PLC or Speed limited by SATA Port. Some day I would like to replace my NAS with SSD, but it has to be a price point that is worth it. May be around $60/TB. The problem is I dont see any roadmap to suggest we have tech to bring it to that price point in the next few years. ( ignoring economic irregularities ) [1] https://wccftech.com/sandisk-ssd-plus-line-of-solid-state-drives-start-from-a-1tb-capacity-for-just-95/ https://wccftech.com/sandisk-ssd-plus-line-of-solid-state-dr...
dan1234 6y ago
The speeds are pretty mediocre, as this is a SATA drive. Intel has a much quicker (and much more expensive) NVMe equivalent. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/data-center-ssds/d7-series/dc-p4510-series/dc-p4510-8tb-2-5inch-3d2.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-stor...
- Wandfarbe 6y ago
  I don't get your comment. If its more expensive and much quicker, then this doesn't sound like a fair comparision at all or alternative.
pedrocr 6y ago
I was having a look at NVMe SSDs yesterday and noticed the cost per TB premium is now only ~4x over hard drives for a much faster device. How quickly should I expect my home NAS to be feasibly SSD only? I'd probably dump hard drives and never look back at ~1.5x premium. Is that soon?
- net2net2net 6y ago
  I have been using these Intel NVMes for a while: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80991/intel-ssd-dc-p3600-series-1-2tb-2-5in-pcie-3-0-20nm-mlc.html https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80991/i... I have been very happy with them.
- peterburkimsher 6y ago
  How big is your home NAS? I've been transitioning to SSD for a couple of years now, though I still use Seagate 5TB HDDs for cold-storage backups. The speed and lighter physical weight makes a huge difference to me.
  - pedrocr 6y ago
    I have two at 4x4TB, so it's still much too expensive to go SSD. I was planning an SSD cache with 2x512GB SSDs in RAID1 for the next build but now I'm wondering how long it will take to be able to go all SSD.
peterburkimsher 6y ago
I think this is the second 8TB SSD on the market. I'd been eyeing the 8TB Sabrent Rocket M.2 as an upgrade for my 2014 MacBook Pro, but the price is eye-watering. I'd need to buy 2, because there's no bus-powered hard drives that size to backup to. Now Samsung's made this an affordable backup option, I just need to start saving up.
rasz 6y ago
360 erase cycle QLC flash.

> Samsung 870 QVO 1 TB Review - Terrible, Do Not Buy > https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-870-qvo-1-tb/ https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-870-qvo-1-tb/ 2+TB SKUs have slightly better performance but I would still choose TLC everyday over this. A hypothetical 6TB TLC version would cost the same but perform much better while having much much longer endurance.

RealStickman_ 6y ago
It's impressive how well the caching in these SSDs works to still provide good performance until the cache is full and performance falls off a cliff.

ksec 6y ago

The cheapest SSD per TB I have seen was 2TB @ $159 from Sandisk[1], which is an one off price, but most of the SATA non NVME PCI-E SSD can go as low as $90 - $100 / TB. I dont mind QLC / PLC or Speed limited by SATA Port. Some day I would like to replace my NAS with SSD, but it has to be a price point that is worth it. May be around $60/TB. The problem is I dont see any roadmap to suggest we have tech to bring it to that price point in the next few years. ( ignoring economic irregularities ) [1] https://wccftech.com/sandisk-ssd-plus-line-of-solid-state-drives-start-from-a-1tb-capacity-for-just-95/ https://wccftech.com/sandisk-ssd-plus-line-of-solid-state-dr...

dan1234 6y ago

The speeds are pretty mediocre, as this is a SATA drive. Intel has a much quicker (and much more expensive) NVMe equivalent. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/data-center-ssds/d7-series/dc-p4510-series/dc-p4510-8tb-2-5inch-3d2.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-stor...

Wandfarbe 6y ago
I don't get your comment. If its more expensive and much quicker, then this doesn't sound like a fair comparision at all or alternative.

pedrocr 6y ago

I was having a look at NVMe SSDs yesterday and noticed the cost per TB premium is now only ~4x over hard drives for a much faster device. How quickly should I expect my home NAS to be feasibly SSD only? I'd probably dump hard drives and never look back at ~1.5x premium. Is that soon?

net2net2net 6y ago
I have been using these Intel NVMes for a while: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80991/intel-ssd-dc-p3600-series-1-2tb-2-5in-pcie-3-0-20nm-mlc.html https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80991/i... I have been very happy with them.
peterburkimsher 6y ago
How big is your home NAS? I've been transitioning to SSD for a couple of years now, though I still use Seagate 5TB HDDs for cold-storage backups. The speed and lighter physical weight makes a huge difference to me.
- pedrocr 6y ago
  I have two at 4x4TB, so it's still much too expensive to go SSD. I was planning an SSD cache with 2x512GB SSDs in RAID1 for the next build but now I'm wondering how long it will take to be able to go all SSD.

peterburkimsher 6y ago

I think this is the second 8TB SSD on the market. I'd been eyeing the 8TB Sabrent Rocket M.2 as an upgrade for my 2014 MacBook Pro, but the price is eye-watering. I'd need to buy 2, because there's no bus-powered hard drives that size to backup to. Now Samsung's made this an affordable backup option, I just need to start saving up.

rasz 6y ago

360 erase cycle QLC flash.