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I mean, compared to the majority of streaming platforms (YouTube, Spotify), sure. But there's the entire world of lossless music that just outperforms vinyls in

I mean, compared to the majority of streaming platforms (YouTube, Spotify), sure. But there's the entire world of lossless music that just outperforms vinyls in every way. But yeah, in both cases, you'd need to shell out at least a couple of hundred euros on speakers to fully experience either vinyls or lossless, and that has proven to be not important to the vast majority of the people. I have a pretty large collection of lossless files, a record player, some vinyls, and speakers that allow me to tell the difference, but I still play Spotify on them like 95% of the time.

tuatoru 6y ago
> you'd need to shell out at least a couple of hundred euros on speakers to fully experience either vinyls or lossless. A pair of Sony MDR-7506es would do it. The workhorse cans of the recording industry.
- nseggs 6y ago
  Don’t forget the converters. A lot of people get crazy headphones and connect them to their laptop headphone jack or a cheap Focusrite interface where poor design and pcb layout mean you can literally hear the power section.
jacobush 6y ago
Lots of CDs and lossless digital is mastered like shit, for whatever reason. My fav to hate is Depeche Modes “Playing the Angel”. I was given it at release and couldn’t at first understand why my (very humble, late 80s) set played it so bad. Well, it’s clipped to hell. Some vinyl releases seem to be just copy paste of a shitty digital master, but most vinyl is mastered well. This HAS to be a big reason many prefer vinyl. Older vinyl also often has less range, but no clipping, which can make them soothing to listen to. I suppose automatic gain adjustment in Spotify gives the same result, so there’s that. But the thing with vinyl for me are the physical things and the ritual. It’s sheer joy. I don’t have many records, maybe 30, but it’s a fun thing.

tuatoru 6y ago

> you'd need to shell out at least a couple of hundred euros on speakers to fully experience either vinyls or lossless. A pair of Sony MDR-7506es would do it. The workhorse cans of the recording industry.

nseggs 6y ago
Don’t forget the converters. A lot of people get crazy headphones and connect them to their laptop headphone jack or a cheap Focusrite interface where poor design and pcb layout mean you can literally hear the power section.

jacobush 6y ago

Lots of CDs and lossless digital is mastered like shit, for whatever reason. My fav to hate is Depeche Modes “Playing the Angel”. I was given it at release and couldn’t at first understand why my (very humble, late 80s) set played it so bad. Well, it’s clipped to hell. Some vinyl releases seem to be just copy paste of a shitty digital master, but most vinyl is mastered well. This HAS to be a big reason many prefer vinyl. Older vinyl also often has less range, but no clipping, which can make them soothing to listen to. I suppose automatic gain adjustment in Spotify gives the same result, so there’s that. But the thing with vinyl for me are the physical things and the ritual. It’s sheer joy. I don’t have many records, maybe 30, but it’s a fun thing.