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>Cloud Computing (and SASS even more so) is little more than just another attempt to recreate access/info monopolies, [...] , everyone will blame anything and e
by jasode 6y ago
>Cloud Computing (and SASS even more so) is little more than just another attempt to recreate access/info monopolies, [...] , everyone will blame anything and everything but their own willful ignorance,
For some reason, "cloud computing" has become a bogeyman and therefore corporations paying for it are clueless "sheeple".
To help prevent the phrase "cloud computing" from distorting our thinking, we have to remember that companies have been paying others for off-premise computing without calling it "cloud" or "SaaS" for decades before Amazon AWS, Salesforce, etc existed.
Examples...
In the 1960s, IBM's SABRE[1] airline reservations system was the "cloud" for companies like American Airlines, Delta, etc.
In the 1980s, many companies used to process payroll in-house accounting software and print paychecks on self-owned dot-matrix printers. But most companies eventually outsourced all that to specialized companies such as ADP[2].
Companies tried to manage employees' retirement benefits on in-house software but most outsource that to companies like Fidelity[3]. Likewise, even companies that self-fund their own healthcare benefits will still outsource the administration to a company like Cigna[4]. Don't install a bunch of "healthcare management software" on your own on-premise servers. Just use the "cloud/SaaS" computers that Cigna has.
Some companies (really old ones) used to print their own stock ownership certificates and mail them out to grandma. Now, virtually every company outsources that to another company. Most companies that have Employee Stock Purchase Plans outsource the administration of it to a company like Computershare[5].
The major difference with "cloud" terminology taking hold is that services like AWS is offering generic compute (EC2) and non-vertical industry solutions. Otherwise, the so-called "cloud" has been going on for decades. Amazon AWS made "cloud" really convenient by allocating off-premise resources via a web interface (dashboard or REST api) instead of calling a salesperson from IBM/ADP/Fidelity/Cigna/etc.
That doesn't mean it's always correct to buy into everything the cloud offers. Pick and choose the tradeoffs that make financial sense. Netflix got rid of their datacenters and moved 100% of the customer billing to the cloud. But Dropbox did the opposite and migrated from AWS to their own datacenter. They're both correct for their situations.
>, when some of the bigger service providers will eventually fall over (which they will).
The big established vendors like AWS, Azure, and GCP ... all have enough business that they will be around for decades. If anybody will exit, I'd guess it would be the smaller players like Oracle Cloud.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system)#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system)#Histor...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP_(company)
[3] https://www.fidelityworkplace.com/ https://www.fidelityworkplace.com/
[4] https://www.cigna.com/assets/docs/business/medium-employers/cigna-funding-solutions-brochure.pdf https://www.cigna.com/assets/docs/business/medium-employers/...
[5] https://www.computershare.com/us/business/employee-equity-plans/employee-stock-purchase-plans https://www.computershare.com/us/business/employee-equity-pl...
- kortilla 6y agoNone of your examples would disrupt the core business from functioning (barring the huge reduction in reservations from SABRE but that’s a monopoly exchange, which is a different problem). Disrupting paychecks, retirement, healthcare, stock issuance, etc were all annoying but the business would not cease to make money and those were all relatively interchangeable with other providers or had offline alternatives. The key difference with this current cloud embrace is that big billion dollar businesses are making their core business dependent on Amazon/Google/Microsoft cloud services. They don’t even trust power companies or ISPs to give them power and Internet that reliably. A disaster recovery plan for a dependence on AWS lambda and co. is now just “Amazon shouldn’t fail, but if it does we’ll just have to rewrite all of that software at great expense and lost revenue to the business.”
- jasode 6y ago>The key difference with this current cloud embrace is that big billion dollar businesses are making their core business dependent on Amazon/Google/Microsoft cloud services. There's still some history missing there. Before AWS/GCP/Azure, billion dollar businesses were making their _core_ business dependent on datacenters owned by HP/IBM/Sungard/Origin/Exodus/etc. E.g. Google's early search engine (their core business) in 1999 ran on servers at Exodus datacenter. Many of The Washington Post's core computing was provided by IBM's data center before Amazon AWS existed. In the 1990s, many businesses also had SAP ERP for core business processes that was managed by outsourced datacenters. (Both HP and IBM offered "managed SAP" hosting services.) When SAP went down, manufacturing lines got shut down, or no products got picked for shipping and trucks would sit idling. It's a similar disruption with AWS outages today. Therefore, switching from lesser known and older "cloud" such as Origin/Exodus/etc to AWS/Azure/GCP is not that radical or as dangerous as some believe. Before AWS, many companies still depended and trusted other companies to provide off-premise reliable computer infrastructure. We just didn't call it "cloud" back in the 1990s. Today's AWS/Azure/GCP with their modern multi-zone failover architectures are more reliable than the old HP/Origin datacenters that businesses used to depend on.
- toast0 6y ago