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I'm struggling to come up with something more substantive to say in response, but this is a bad take and it needs to be said. Studies that demonstrate high leve

I'm struggling to come up with something more substantive to say in response, but this is a bad take and it needs to be said. Studies that demonstrate high level brain activity without the corresponding conscious experience are important in that they help to constrain where and how conscious experience is generated. Platitudes about human intelligence have no utility here.

collyw 6y ago
> conscious experience is generated Is there any evidence that it is generated?
- tomc1985 6y ago
  What else could it be?
- hackinthebochs 6y ago
  It seems to come and go with life, wakefulness, blows to the head, etc. It can be modulated through stimulating brain cells or destructive damage. Yes, there's a lot of evidence that the brain generates consciousness.
- LASR 6y ago
  As opposed to what? It being “really there” ?
raincom 6y ago
The poster you responding to is correct to a large extent. Yes, you can record waves, and you can even classify them like N170. Responses can be 'localized'; however, one has to be a bit careful. Even many researchers say it is new phrenology: for instance, William R. Uttal wrote a book on it, called "The New Phrenology. The limits of localizing cognitive processes in the Brain". This book is not based on philosophical arguments, but based on the research done by cognitive neuroscientists. I am yet to come across a substantial criticism against Uttal's book. Just because localization is at most one can do, it is not cure to solve all puzzles/problems.
- hackinthebochs 6y ago
  >Just because localization is at most one can do, it is not cure to solve all puzzles/problems. But who is saying it does?
  - akiselev 6y ago
    The media, grant writers, some scientists, and anyone. listening to the former three groups - who end up parroting the decision making experiment and other novelties of the academic rat race as if they offer some sort of insight into free will.

collyw 6y ago

> conscious experience is generated Is there any evidence that it is generated?

tomc1985 6y ago
What else could it be?
hackinthebochs 6y ago
It seems to come and go with life, wakefulness, blows to the head, etc. It can be modulated through stimulating brain cells or destructive damage. Yes, there's a lot of evidence that the brain generates consciousness.
LASR 6y ago
As opposed to what? It being “really there” ?

raincom 6y ago

The poster you responding to is correct to a large extent. Yes, you can record waves, and you can even classify them like N170. Responses can be 'localized'; however, one has to be a bit careful. Even many researchers say it is new phrenology: for instance, William R. Uttal wrote a book on it, called "The New Phrenology. The limits of localizing cognitive processes in the Brain". This book is not based on philosophical arguments, but based on the research done by cognitive neuroscientists. I am yet to come across a substantial criticism against Uttal's book. Just because localization is at most one can do, it is not cure to solve all puzzles/problems.

hackinthebochs 6y ago
>Just because localization is at most one can do, it is not cure to solve all puzzles/problems. But who is saying it does?
- akiselev 6y ago
  The media, grant writers, some scientists, and anyone. listening to the former three groups - who end up parroting the decision making experiment and other novelties of the academic rat race as if they offer some sort of insight into free will.