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gamers don’t insult other peoples’ hobbies as often That’s not been my experience. From what I’ve seen, gamers insult anyone and everyone who doesn’t fit in wi

gamers don’t insult other peoples’ hobbies as often That’s not been my experience. From what I’ve seen, gamers insult anyone and everyone who doesn’t fit in with them. They also insult each other as a form of bonding, though the tone is way less nasty than the one they reserve for outsiders.

willis936 6y ago
Do you have substance to back that up? We have a public figure MMA fighter and video game player shaming one hobby and praising the other. Do we have a single instance of a gamer public figure shaming some other hobby?
- chongli 6y ago
  Now you’re moving the goalposts but the answer is still yes. I’ve seen plenty of popular streamers on Twitch shaming people for playing other games or for non-gaming related hobbies such as IRL streaming, ASMR, etc. There have been many public scandals on this topic, sometimes with Twitch even banning these streamers. Try spending some time in the chat of popular Twitch gaming streamers. You’ll see some absolutely toxic behaviour. I’m honestly surprised that people on HN would be unaware of this stuff.
  - willis936 6y ago
    Asking for substance to a claim is not moving goalposts. The substance to my statements are in the OP. I am asking for one documented instance.
    - chongli 6y ago
      I was talking about gamers in general. You moved the goalposts by making it about public figure gamers.
      - willis936 6y ago
        If you have some objective metric then feel free to put it forward. “I see X on on Y all the time” is completely unsubstantive. Just one instance to make your point is all I am asking.
        chongli 6y ago
        I made an assertion from experience which I thought was common knowledge. Apparently that's not the case. The information is out there if you're really curious. I'm not going to do the research for you though (just Google "Twitch streamer banned"). You wouldn't be convinced by it anyway.
        formerly_proven 6y ago
        People who self-identify as gamers seem to be a minority subset of people who play video games (even if we'd filter by time spent, skill level, ...). The latter seems to consistently face-palm at the idiocy of the former, and avoids identifying as "gamers" for that reason. Overall my experience matches yours, people who outwardly identify as "gamers" are often toxic individuals, certainly more so on average than people who don't express that group identity. Multiplayer games often have very toxic or extremely toxic communities and players regardless, some more than others (e.g. CS:GO or GTA:Online have absurdly toxic playerbases, other titles less so).

willis936 6y ago

Do you have substance to back that up? We have a public figure MMA fighter and video game player shaming one hobby and praising the other. Do we have a single instance of a gamer public figure shaming some other hobby?

chongli 6y ago
Now you’re moving the goalposts but the answer is still yes. I’ve seen plenty of popular streamers on Twitch shaming people for playing other games or for non-gaming related hobbies such as IRL streaming, ASMR, etc. There have been many public scandals on this topic, sometimes with Twitch even banning these streamers. Try spending some time in the chat of popular Twitch gaming streamers. You’ll see some absolutely toxic behaviour. I’m honestly surprised that people on HN would be unaware of this stuff.
- willis936 6y ago
  Asking for substance to a claim is not moving goalposts. The substance to my statements are in the OP. I am asking for one documented instance.
  - chongli 6y ago
    I was talking about gamers in general. You moved the goalposts by making it about public figure gamers.
    - willis936 6y ago
      If you have some objective metric then feel free to put it forward. “I see X on on Y all the time” is completely unsubstantive. Just one instance to make your point is all I am asking.
      - chongli 6y ago
        I made an assertion from experience which I thought was common knowledge. Apparently that's not the case. The information is out there if you're really curious. I'm not going to do the research for you though (just Google "Twitch streamer banned"). You wouldn't be convinced by it anyway.
        formerly_proven 6y ago
        People who self-identify as gamers seem to be a minority subset of people who play video games (even if we'd filter by time spent, skill level, ...). The latter seems to consistently face-palm at the idiocy of the former, and avoids identifying as "gamers" for that reason. Overall my experience matches yours, people who outwardly identify as "gamers" are often toxic individuals, certainly more so on average than people who don't express that group identity. Multiplayer games often have very toxic or extremely toxic communities and players regardless, some more than others (e.g. CS:GO or GTA:Online have absurdly toxic playerbases, other titles less so).