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That's all reasonably understood by most people. You can talk to a random person on the street and they will recognize that where and when you're born along wit

That's all reasonably understood by most people. You can talk to a random person on the street and they will recognize that where and when you're born along with the family support and connections you had can make a massive difference in what you become. Unfortunately the diversity movement doesn't really tackle any of this because it would require real effort over decades while asking hard questions about culture and family life. It's much easier to just point into skin-color/race/gender ratios and push for regressive segregation and discrimination instead, but all that does it make everything worse.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Unfortunately the diversity movement doesn't really tackle any of this because it would require real effort over decades Even assuming the effect you describe was true, its self evidently not for the reason you describe, as the “diversity movement”, as you call it, has exerted real effort over decades. > It's much easier to just point into skin-color/race/gender ratios and push for regressive segregation The only thing the “diversity movement” pushes for is the opposite of segregation.
- manigandham 6y ago
  You realize we're talking about the modern "diversity" movement, not civil rights? Where's the effort? What has changed in the culture and pipeline that causes the continuing imbalance? Why is the focus only on the hiring and specific industries? Why have other minorities done fine since the beginning? This movement is the epitome of good intentions paving the road to hell. It's been stretched to the extreme. It calls for hiring people based on nothing more than race/skin color. That's racial discrimination. It calls for things like "black-only" spaces. That's racial segregation. These policies are very public and direct at this point, and impossible to ignore. Yet the defense seems to come from people who are either ignorant or willingly complicit and would rather just say the "right" things instead of focus on the change, just like this article points out regarding media.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> Unfortunately the diversity movement doesn't really tackle any of this because it would require real effort over decades Even assuming the effect you describe was true, its self evidently not for the reason you describe, as the “diversity movement”, as you call it, has exerted real effort over decades. > It's much easier to just point into skin-color/race/gender ratios and push for regressive segregation The only thing the “diversity movement” pushes for is the opposite of segregation.

manigandham 6y ago
You realize we're talking about the modern "diversity" movement, not civil rights? Where's the effort? What has changed in the culture and pipeline that causes the continuing imbalance? Why is the focus only on the hiring and specific industries? Why have other minorities done fine since the beginning? This movement is the epitome of good intentions paving the road to hell. It's been stretched to the extreme. It calls for hiring people based on nothing more than race/skin color. That's racial discrimination. It calls for things like "black-only" spaces. That's racial segregation. These policies are very public and direct at this point, and impossible to ignore. Yet the defense seems to come from people who are either ignorant or willingly complicit and would rather just say the "right" things instead of focus on the change, just like this article points out regarding media.